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Old 02-18-2011, 09:55 PM
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Nobody really needs to come on and inform us why they did not post in the last few hours....just sayin
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No one mocked prayer and consecration. We only questioned why you felt the need to inform us that you had been in prayer all evening.


I didn't know prayer was such a big deal to you people. If I'm talking to people that pray, and tell them that I prayed, it wouldn't be any big deal. But if I'm talking to people that don't pray, and tell them I prayed, they're probably going to twist into something it isn't, which is what happened here.
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Old 02-18-2011, 10:51 PM
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I didn't know prayer was such a big deal to you people. If I'm talking to people that pray, and tell them that I prayed, it wouldn't be any big deal. But if I'm talking to people that don't pray, and tell them I prayed, they're probably going to twist into something it isn't, which is what happened here.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:01 PM
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You have an opinion about the "Cons", however the truth is they were as difficult and "mean" as those you accuse. I have debated with them for years and tried to always be kind and respectful, and did make "friendly" with most of them. Because I was not offended by their strong opinions, even when they were mean. I have been where they are and therefore I understand the passion, but when I was honest with myself and studied the scriptures and history, I found that we had never been expose to the "whole" story.

So, if you want to ask questions, just accept folks answers as their opinion and don't get "sensitive", because that just doesn't fly here. We have been where you are, but you likely have not walked in our shoes, nor been were we are.

And BTW, my answers would all be "NO", except for the last one and it would be "YES". Read 1 Tim. 4:10, and you will find a very strong statement of why my answers are as stated.
I said "no" to number one, simply because I disagree with your premise that other Christian baptisims are not "in the name of Jesus". When clearly the person being baptized "has CALLED on the NAME of JESUS!
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:04 PM
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I didn't know prayer was such a big deal to you people. If I'm talking to people that pray, and tell them that I prayed, it wouldn't be any big deal. But if I'm talking to people that don't pray, and tell them I prayed, they're probably going to twist into something it isn't, which is what happened here.
Nope, OPII, that doesn't fly. Now you're moving past defending yourself (you would probably be better off to just drop it), and accusing people you don't know of not praying. How could you possibly draw that conclusion and feel comfortable with it?

Move back to your topic and let the prayer thing go. It was over last night. It was no big deal really--it just came off a little weird. It DID sound snarky; I'm not saying you MEANT it that way, but that's how it came across. I'm happy that you pray! Never a bad thing. I have a brother-in-law who can be counted on to drop to his knees at around the same time every afternoon, no matter whether we're at his house or he's at ours. He's been praying with my kids playing on the floor next to him--and I love it. It's made a huge impact on my life and in theirs to know someone who is dependable about talking to God every day. What a great example.

That said, I've never heard him say, "Hey, I just got back from praying for a few hours...."
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:16 PM
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Nope, OPII, that doesn't fly. Now you're moving past defending yourself (you would probably be better off to just drop it), and accusing people you don't know of not praying. How could you possibly draw that conclusion and feel comfortable with it?

Move back to your topic and let the prayer thing go. It was over last night. It was no big deal really--it just came off a little weird. It DID sound snarky; I'm not saying you MEANT it that way, but that's how it came across. I'm happy that you pray! Never a bad thing. I have a brother-in-law who can be counted on to drop to his knees at around the same time every afternoon, no matter whether we're at his house or he's at ours. He's been praying with my kids playing on the floor next to him--and I love it. It's made a huge impact on my life and in theirs to know someone who is dependable about talking to God every day. What a great example.

That said, I've never heard him say, "Hey, I just got back from praying for a few hours...."

When did I accuse anyone of not praying? I'll admit, I don't much evidence of prayer here and the reaction to my statement about being in prayer last night was just weird. But thanks anyway for the advice to drop it. I will when I'm ready.

I'm glad you've never heard your whoever never say that he just got back from praying for a few hours. You've never heard me say it either.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:18 PM
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2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?
While I have and do speak with tongues in my private prayer, I believe "Apostolics" have made speaking in tongues a "holy grail" of spirituality.

I know many folks that have not spoken in tongues, and yet are producing the fruit of the Spirit, and I believe God's Spirit does indwell them. So, again my answer to your #2, is also "no".
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:24 PM
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While I have and do speak with tongues in my private prayer, I believe "Apostolics" have made speaking in tongues a "holy grail" of spirituality.

I know many folks that have not spoken in tongues, and yet are producing the fruit of the Spirit, and I believe God's Spirit does indwell them. So, again my answer to your #2, is also "no".


Aren't you the guy I've heard about that believes that everyone is saved? If you think everyone is saved, why bother with tongues? What's the point?
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:37 PM
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I'd like to apologize for my attitude. OPII, please give mea call. I'd like to make a vocal apology. (484) 271-2468
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I'd like to apologize for my attitude. OPII, please give mea call. I'd like to make a vocal apology. (484) 271-2468


No need for a call. I appreciate and accept your apology. Blessings.
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