Bro. They made it clear. I'm not a Christian. I'm not a real Apostolic. I'm trash because I don't agree with them politically. That's fine. I've tried to show why, as a Christian, I feel the other side can reduce abortion and address some very important issues. But the more I try to make my case the more they brow beat me. I'm tired of trying to prove that I'm still a Christian who loves Jesus as much as they do just because I disagree with them. They don't believe I'm an Apostolic, fine. I'm tired of fighting. My job got moved overseas and now I got a new one and can barely make it by. In a couple years I don' tthink my family will hhave helath insurance. And no body cares. No body cares. No body cares. If I was an unborn baby they'd care. If my son was an unborn baby they'd care. But I'm not so I'm expendable, my family is expendable. As long as they get their precious tax cuts. My church wont help us pay oru medical bills. The only one's even acting like they care are the Democrats. And my brothers don't think I'm a Christian on top of this. I'm tired of even trying to show them I'm a Christian too. I'll just agree with them. I'm not a Christian. And because I'm going to vote democratic, I'm not a real Apostolic either. And you know what. They don't care. Their going to be happy I'm lost, becuase I didn't agree with their rightwing extremist politics.
I may strongly disagree with you on your position and the reason that I debate a bit is that ideas do have consequences. You maybe completely in error, in my opinion, but I leave your regeneration with you and God. I may have missed the posts but I don't see where you have to prove your Christianity to this forum.
As far as not getting any help from your congregation, if it is as you state they may be the ones that are not allowing their espoused Christianity to show. I know the congregation that I'm a part of just recently helped pay for a member's operation so I know they are out there. You should not judge the truthfulness of Christianity by it's alleged followers.
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One reason abortion is down in Europe is because the male sperm count is much lower than in the US.
There ya go. All you guys get on an estrogen pill and get separate bedrooms!
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
I may strongly disagree with you on your position and the reason that I debate a bit is that ideas do have consequences. You maybe completely in error, in my opinion, but I leave your regeneration with you and God. I may have missed the posts but I don't see where you have to prove your Christianity to this forum.
As far as not getting any help from your congregation, if it is as you state they may be the ones that are not allowing their espoused Christianity to show. I know the congregation that I'm a part of just recently helped pay for a member's operation so I know they are out there. You should not judge the truthfulness of Christianity by it's alleged followers.
No one has been stronger against Aquilla and his buddy Chris, than I have today.
I dont recall questioning his salvation....just his judgement and calling him on repeating lies.
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No one has been stronger against Aquilla and his buddy Chris, than I have today.
I dont recall questioning his salvation....just his judgement and calling him on repeating lies.
Worldviews (and we all have one) affect our thinking in VERY personal ways. That is why we must examine our very core beliefs to see if they are of God.
__________________ "I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it."
A bit dramatic I do believe, it is almost as if you are pouting now. It is compromise. You can not compromise sin in order to be better off financially, which is basicly what you are arguing for. God will take care you and your family if you live for Him. You are putting too much trust into man. Man will fail you.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Agreed. No one I have seen has once questioned his salvation... just his harsh words towards others and his judgement... but not salvation by any means... I think people tend to get the world they live in and the internet world too confused at times to where they dont seem to see a difference between the two...
No one has been stronger against Aquilla and his buddy Chris, than I have today.
I dont recall questioning his salvation....just his judgement and calling him on repeating lies.
i almost didnt say this, but for the sake of being misunderstood, but there is more to this than him claiming people questioned his salvation, which i certainly didnt, but i simply want him to understand that being mean spirited and nasty is not going to win him friends on aff or in the democratic party, dt i called him brother and am glad for lively debate, but some things need to be kept under the lips, lol
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A bit dramatic I do believe, it is almost as if you are pouting now. It is compromise. You can not compromise sin in order to be better off financially, which is basicly what you are arguing for. God will take care you and your family if you live for Him. You are putting too much trust into man. Man will fail you.
Amen over and over we must place our trust in Him!
No one has been stronger against Aquilla and his buddy Chris, than I have today.
I dont recall questioning his salvation....just his judgement and calling him on repeating lies.
I hit them pretty hard yesterday. But still can't make them see the compromise in religion.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Bro. They made it clear. I'm not a Christian. I'm not a real Apostolic. I'm trash because I don't agree with them politically. That's fine. I've tried to show why, as a Christian, I feel the other side can reduce abortion and address some very important issues. But the more I try to make my case the more they brow beat me. I know people from Europe and other countries who love the Lord and have explained that America's just too narrow visioned to address the issue, and I was believing there was a way to help people here see that we can do what they've done there. But nobody cares. I'm tired of trying to prove that I'm still a Christian who loves Jesus as much as they do just because I disagree with them. They don't believe I'm an Apostolic, fine. I'm tired of fighting. My job got moved overseas and now I got a new one and can barely make it by. In a couple years I don' tthink my family will hhave helath insurance. And no body cares. No body cares. No body cares. If I was an unborn baby they'd care. If my son was an unborn baby they'd care. But I'm not so I'm expendable, my family is expendable. As long as they get their precious tax cuts. My church wont help us pay oru medical bills. The only one's even acting like they care are the Democrats. And my brothers don't think I'm a Christian on top of this. I'm tired of even trying to show them I'm a Christian too. I'll just agree with them. I'm not a Christian. And because I'm going to vote democratic, I'm not a real Apostolic either. And you know what. They don't care. Their going to be happy I'm lost, becuase I didn't agree with their rightwing extremist politics.
Look Aquila,If this is such an emotional topic for you,why do you get so involved with it? Is it worth losing your soul over or the fellowship of your church? You ought to know by now that politics are religion are the hotest and most debated topics known to mankind.
YOur political affiliation and views are a PERSONAL Matter.keep it that way. If you choose not to, then prepare for the worst. obviiously you haven't. I've always been a Democrat and I wouldn't have disclosed it if i didn't know what came with the territory. suck it up like a man and move on.
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