Apostolic Feminists

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by COOPER

Is this a Joke?

Do you think it was from God?

No joke.

I did dream about you.

In the dream, there was a battlefield raging.

Guns were going off, bombs were exploding, it was horrendous.

You were gtting in your car with your family to go get closer to it, because you thought it would be exciting.

I was trying to talk you out of it, because of the danger involved for you folks.

I'm not claiming divine origin or anything, just mentioning it.

I did not go to bed thinking about you in any way.

Anyhow, that was it.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

No joke.

I did dream about you.

In the dream, there was a battlefield raging.

Guns were going off, bombs were exploding, it was horrendous.

You were gtting in your car with your family to go get closer to it, because you thought it would be exciting.

I was trying to talk you out of it, because of the danger involved for you folks.

I'm not claiming divine origin or anything, just mentioning it.

I did not go to bed thinking about you in any way.

Anyhow, that was it.

Thanks, I will keep this in mind.

[Sister Alvear]

We ALL incluing me must be very careful what we say about others...The recording angel writes down all we say and it is by our words we are judged...I do not even know Paula White or don't remember the name...
I personally LOVE to hear Brother Stoneking preach and have heard people say things about him...It makes me shutter...to think how many loose tongues we have in our circles...
Men judge the OUTWARD God sees way beyond the outward and that is what is scary....He sees our spirit.
If you don't understand somebody UNLESS you really know be very careful what you say... Mother Alvear

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Fonix

Janice Sjostrand is one awesome singer and keyboard player. I have heard her speak a few times,

I have heard her say... "Men are stupid"

[Sister Alvear]

Well, she should not say that at all. My husband is one of the kindest men you could ever meet and he is a long ways from stupid...speaks bunches of languages, sings like an angel...no men are not stupid. Some men may be stupid like some women may be stupid but that statement is unbecoming. May I say here that some women because people have said HARD things against them have taken the wrong route sometimes in anger and sometimes in hurt they have come off with statements that are not becoming to ladies...


I am trying to think if I know Paula White, one time years ago I spoke at a ladies conference and a Sister White was one of the speakers but I cannot remember if it was Paula White.

I do have a friend she comes off "kinda" strong but she is a precious God loving person...and as I write she is up in an area where I doubt if a Jesus Name man has ever been...maybe her "crude" ways (the term some use) is why God has sent her where she is. I confess I could not do what she is doing...
Until we have done more that the brother or sister we have an urge to talk about we had really better think about it...
So many people have told me about those old women that traveled taking the gospel to THIS country...and a lot of men confess it or not got the Holy Ghost under a woman...
If I don't believe in something I pray that God gives me wisdom to know how to handle it.
Pray about what you let lodge in your heart...

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I have heard her say... "Men are stupid"

She said it to the young girls on one of the other youtube clips....she was talkng about women having physical power over men and that man are stupid, she then bulged her eyes and kindof stuck out her tongue like a man google eyeing woman nad being in lust....

BUT, this does not make her anti-anointed or Godless. Every one who gets up to speak/preach/teach has some fo pure God words and some pure self words IMO.

Even Paul wrote at one point that he was saying this and not the Holy Ghost...In other words, he recognized that what he was saying was the truth as he saw it in that circumstance and this was his OPINION and not given to him by divine revelation...JJ's OPINION that men are stupid is just that and she shared it while speaking...

The Holy Ghost didn't say that...she did...but to say that her whole message is discounted because she in her own communication style said something that may not seem very appropiate is just not right...IMHO.

All preachers lapse in and out of their own opinion while preaching...the key is for them to recognize it when they do it...and to not go around and pretend that it was a divine word when it was not...

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Well, she should not say that at all. My husband is one of the kindest men you could ever meet and he is a long ways from stupid...speaks bunches of languages, sings like an angel...no men are not stupid. Some men may be stupid like some women may be stupid but that statement is unbecoming. May I say here that some women because people have said HARD things against them have taken the wrong route sometimes in anger and sometimes in hurt they have come off with statements that are not becoming to ladies...


I am trying to think if I know Paula White, one time years ago I spoke at a ladies conference and a Sister White was one of the speakers but I cannot remember if it was Paula White.
I do have a friend she comes off "kinda" strong but she is a precious God loving person...and as I write she is up in an area where I doubt if a Jesus Name man has ever been...maybe her "crude" ways (the term some use) is why God has sent her where she is. I confess I could not do what she is doing...
Until we have done more that the brother or sister we have an urge to talk about we had really better think about it...
So many people have told me about those old women that traveled taking the gospel to THIS country...and a lot of men confess it or not got the Holy Ghost under a woman...
If I don't believe in something I pray that God gives me wisdom to know how to handle it.
Pray about what you let lodge in your heart...

The Paula White I have referred to is not from the Apostolic persuation. She and her husband pastor a Charismatic church in Florida. She kindof came up under the likes of TD Jakes. She has never been among oneness Aposolics that I know of...she does appear often on TBN though...

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

She said it to the young girls on one of the other youtube clips....she was talkng about women having physical power over men and that man are stupid, she then bulged her eyes and kindof stuck out her tongue like a man google eyeing woman nad being in lust....

BUT, this does not make her anti-anointed or Godless. Every one who gets up to speak/preach/teach has some fo pure God words and some pure self words IMO.

Even Paul wrote at one point that he was saying this and not the Holy Ghost...In other words, he recognized that what he was saying was the truth as he saw it in that circumstance and this was his OPINION and not given to him by divine revelation...JJ's OPINION that men are stupid is just that and she shared it while speaking...

The Holy Ghost didn't say that...she did...but to say that her whole message is discounted because she in her own communication style said something that may not seem very appropiate is just not right...IMHO.

All preachers lapse in and out of their own opinion while preaching...the key is for them to recognize it when they do it...and to not go around and pretend that it was a divine word when it was not...

You're right; good post. We're not always at our best, are we? I would hate for someone to judge my entire ability as a music director based on one practice or one church service.

I'm being a bit deliberately obtuse in reference to her video, because the one statement was so obnoxious. I agree, though, that that doesn't mean she isn't an anointed speaker or a good teacher.

I do think you'd be less supportive, however, if it were a man speaking at a men's conference, who made the statement that "Women are stupid."

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

You're right; good post. We're not always at our best, are we? I would hate for someone to judge my entire ability as a music director based on one practice or one church service.

I'm being a bit deliberately obtuse in reference to her video, because the one statement was so obnoxious. I agree, though, that that doesn't mean she isn't an anointed speaker or a good teacher.

I do think you'd be less supportive, however, if it were a man speaking at a men's conference, who made the statement that "Women are stupid."

THis is very possible...but I have heard many, many male preachers make comments that left me thinking, "I would not have said that" and I did keep the principle I stated in mind. Don't throw out the meat just because he offered a bone or two...eat the meat and throw away the bones.

A speaker needs to use personal analogies in order to communicate the message.

We must never forget that every sermon is a mixture of the word of God, the Spirit of God, and the one who is doing the talking....and the one doing the talking needs to be the first one who gets that!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

THis is very possible...but I have heard many, many male preachers make comments that left me thinking, "I would not have said that" and I did keep the principle I stated in mind. Don't throw out the meat just because he offered a bone or two...eat the meat and throw away the bones.

A speaker needs to use personal analogies in order to communicate the message.

We must never forget that every sermon is a mixture of the word of God, the Spirit of God, and the one who is doing the talking....and the one doing the talking needs to be the first one who gets that!

I'm sure you're quite right!!