Since many have done away with the 5 fold ministry doesn´t leave much an choice for some...In some places I have visited it is hard to find an evangelist according to the pastors...
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BTW, unless God smacks me upside the head, there is no way on God's green earth I would ever do what I did again. I am thankful for what God has done, but it has taken an immeasurable toll on my wife's health and our finances.
I seriously doubt I will ever pastor again if I ever resign the church I planted.
I just don't have the energy. I have been running, running, running with far too little rest for way too long.
I would plant myself somewhere and assist someone else.
BTW, I hope I don't sound whiney, I am just being real.
Where to start.......hmmmm....well, I don't know if I could say many ministers are choosing to get out of ministry. However, I do know many who are choosing not to enter conventional traditional ministry opportunities.
I can't say as I blame them.
Why enter something with one hand tied behind your back by a rustic religious system?
Why enter traditional ministry when you know your family will suffer and sacrifice because parishoners expect it of ministry, but have no intention of sacrificing anything themselves?
Why enter traditional ministry when you are considered young at age forty, and have no voice?
Many men and women have counted the costs, and decided it's just not worth the time and effort. Instead, they choose to minister through house or internet churches. Or they involve themselves in a comfortable established megachurch in order to diminish the opportunity for failure.
wow surprises never cease to exist! PP complimenting my thread??
can you clarify and/or qualify some of your statments?
how do you define traditional conventional ministry & a rustic religious system ? are you specifially talking about UPC ?
Since many have done away with the 5 fold ministry doesn´t leave much an choice for some...In some places I have visited it is hard to find an evangelist according to the pastors...
HOT POTATO!
True, VERY true words...but the kind that will get you in hot water.
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If there is consistant church hopping the problem isn't always with Sheep??
But I am sure to be called on the carpet for this..I'm sure...
actually, the fact that church-hopping is a possibility is the issue here...
See, when the Apostles set up the church, the Bishop kept the finances of the Church (read: the Body of Christ) in a city, that's it... He made sure that the money got collected to help the poor, etc...
the meetings were held in various houses, you didn't have to go to every meeting, and there was no rule that you had to agree with absolutely everything that everyone else in the city believed in order to be saved...
The issue with being a pastor in the modern church is that there are 100 churches in every city, and that isn't how it is suppose to be... PLUS the simple fact is that a bishop shouldn't need to pastor, too, although the callings can overlap... There is nothing in the Bible that says they have to...
you think people are easy to deal with in our times randy ?
you ought to try pastoring for a while then come back and post about it
I have pastored... and cleaned the bathrooms... People aren't easy to deal that is why change at times is necessary...but do most change? or attempt to?
Since many have done away with the 5 fold ministry doesn´t leave much an choice for some...In some places I have visited it is hard to find an evangelist according to the pastors...
I wonder if they're not there or if the pastors just don't acknowledge them.
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