Acts 2:38 conversions and deliverance

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by CC1

On AFF and FB I see a lot of old timer Pentecostal trashing anything different than church being in a building with a steeple, pews, and a preacher in a suit screaming at the top of his lungs.

You are so jealous.

Originally Posted by CC1

So it goes both ways.

No, Old Time Pentecostal Churches are awesome.

Our preachers wear shoes.

Originally Posted by CC1

In my case I don't "trash" traditional churches

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but just believe that church does not have to be the same as it has been for the past century or so.

Originally Posted by CC1

As far as seeing people coming to Christ and having their life changed my personal observation of being in old time Pentecost and then out of it is that I see as much or more miraculous work of the Lord in my church where folks don't scream, yell, jerk, twitch, etc as I did in old time Pentecost.

you are so jealous gif

Our church is about 9 1/2 years old and we have baptized well over 1,000 people in Jesus name. We have seen people delivered from drugs, other addictions, etc and people come out of satanism, atheism, agnosticism, and on and on.

Originally Posted by CC1

Even as a child or young teen I noticed

Oh yeah, little children and children are great assessors of adult situations.

Originally Posted by CC1

that many of the UPC preachers I heard preached loud and hard about how people were bound and caught up in tradition when they were speaking about trinitarians. I was surprised none of them saw the irony as they represented the ultimate in being caught up in traditions.

You figured this all out between 5 year old to 13?

Originally Posted by CC1

I respect and believe that old time Pentecostals love God and are serving him to the best they know.

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Of course they can't believe the same about me because I go to a church that in their mind is one of those new fangled "seeker" churches and doesn't preach the word of God.

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Which is ironic since 90% of the time we are gong through the bible word for word. Just spent about 8 or 9 months going through the book of Acts each weekend.

So what would that prove if the Branch Davidians, Twelve Tribe Community, and Heaven's Gate were doing the same thing?

[consapente89]

CC1 is a broken record.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Does someone preach/teach a message each time you get together also?

Normally, no, or not in the sense that I think you mean.

There is rarely any prepared "message", although occasionally if a question has come up, some of the men might be asked to do a write up and bring it to a future meeting so it can be addressed.

But for the most part, we tend to follow a more inspirational approach that in my opinion tends toward the following:

1 Thessalonians 5:19-21,

19. Quench not the Spirit.
20. Despise not prophesyings.
21. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Those in our assembly who have by the grace of God been gifted in the realms of prophecy or teaching, usually are the ones who, as led by the Spirit, will begin to speak, that is, prophesy and/or teach, under inspiration, the moment it comes, done decently and in order, of course.

Sometimes this occurs because someone has already been in prayer and the Word and brings an idea or thought to the meeting and would like to discuss it, share their views, etc. That happens more with one of the founding elders. For me, I rarely bring anything ahead of time, but simply seek the Lord in real time and see if there's aught He'd like me to say. The things I say usually take the form of exhortation preceded by a small, teachable moment type comment to set the stage for the encouragement.

1 Corinthians 14:3,

But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

I agree that prayer/worship is the main thing, without connecting to God, you have nothing.
But the other vital part is the perfecting of the saints through the ministry (Ephesians 4:12)

Yes. Perfecting, or maturing of the saints is vital. But that, in my opinion doesn't occur at the end of a Bible lecture. It occurs in the actions and the shouldering of the work of the ministry by doing. Sure, one must learn to listen and heed and come to understand before they go off half-cocked, but of all the various ministers I have trained over the years, the most successful endeavors were achieved by getting the saint out there doing the work.

To me, that's when real perfecting occurs. Patient, guided trial and error, with correction and confirmation, as needed. Sitting there not doing anything is antithetical to growth.

I mentioned in my first post the idea of getting out of the way. Three different times the Spirit spoke to me and instructed me to do that, because the position I was holding in the ministry was holding someone else from growing, so I learned to yield to that instruction so that someone under my oversight could step up and grow into what I had already been training them to do and become.

In my opinion, the five-fold ministry should always be seeking to work itself out of a job, not holding the fort till the Lord comes.

It just depends on where people are at. Novices are not to be promoted, but they can't be stifled either, or held at bay, lest they stagnate and lose a chance to become more Christ-like by getting a chance to step out in faith, when the time is right.

Further, when you have a true son in the Gospel, the greatest thing you could ever hope for them, is TO SURPASS YOU, in all that they are or do, so the goal there is to give them the launching pad they need to jump off of your shoulders into the great will of God for their lives.

And again, I don't think that happens a whole lot by listening to someone else preach or teach. It starts there, for sure, but it had best not end there.

The young woman my stepdad immersed on Saturday was won to the Lord by a family friend who needs maturing and training, equipping, if you will, because she herself hasn't learned how to step up and do the extra heavy lifting of discipling the people she has won. So, we are going to resolve that lack.

There will be instruction and teaching at the verbal level at first, but ultimately, there is going to be more doing, on her part, than anything. She seems ready and interested, so we'll see how it goes. I will be working with my mom and stepdad to also help them learn how to train and equip others, too. They are phenomenal Bible teachers regarding the Gospel and doctrine, and they are sincere, big-hearted lovers of souls, which is the right place to begin. So, they, too, are ready.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Normally, no, or not in the sense that I think you mean.

There is rarely any prepared "message", although occasionally if a question has come up, some of the men might be asked to do a write up and bring it to a future meeting so it can be addressed.

But for the most part, we tend to follow a more inspirational approach that in my opinion tends toward the following:

1 Thessalonians 5:19-21,

Those in our assembly who have by the grace of God been gifted in the realms of prophecy or teaching, usually are the ones who, as led by the Spirit, will begin to speak, that is, prophesy and/or teach, under inspiration, the moment it comes, done decently and in order, of course.

Sometimes this occurs because someone has already been in prayer and the Word and brings an idea or thought to the meeting and would like to discuss it, share their views, etc. That happens more with one of the founding elders. For me, I rarely bring anything ahead of time, but simply seek the Lord in real time and see if there's aught He'd like me to say. The things I say usually take the form of exhortation preceded by a small, teachable moment type comment to set the stage for the encouragement.

1 Corinthians 14:3,

Yes. Perfecting, or maturing of the saints is vital. But that, in my opinion doesn't occur at the end of a Bible lecture. It occurs in the actions and the shouldering of the work of the ministry by doing. Sure, one must learn to listen and heed and come to understand before they go off half-cocked, but of all the various ministers I have trained over the years, the most successful endeavors were achieved by getting the saint out there doing the work.

To me, that's when real perfecting occurs. Patient, guided trial and error, with correction and confirmation, as needed. Sitting there not doing anything is antithetical to growth.

I mentioned in my first post the idea of getting out of the way. Three different times the Spirit spoke to me and instructed me to do that, because the position I was holding in the ministry was holding someone else from growing, so I learned to yield to that instruction so that someone under my oversight could step up and grow into what I had already been training them to do and become.

In my opinion, the five-fold ministry should always be seeking to work itself out of a job, not holding the fort till the Lord comes.

It just depends on where people are at. Novices are not to be promoted, but they can't be stifled either, or held at bay, lest they stagnate and lose a chance to become more Christ-like by getting a chance to step out in faith, when the time is right.

Further, when you have a true son in the Gospel, the greatest thing you could ever hope for them, is TO SURPASS YOU, in all that they are or do, so the goal there is to give them the launching pad they need to jump off of your shoulders into the great will of God for their lives.

And again, I don't think that happens a whole lot by listening to someone else preach or teach. It starts there, for sure, but it had best not end there.

The young woman my stepdad immersed on Saturday was won to the Lord by a family friend who needs maturing and training, equipping, if you will, because she herself hasn't learned how to step up and do the extra heavy lifting of discipling the people she has won. So, we are going to resolve that lack.

There will be instruction and teaching at the verbal level at first, but ultimately, there is going to be more doing, on her part, than anything. She seems ready and interested, so we'll see how it goes. I will be working with my mom and stepdad to also help them learn how to train and equip others, too. They are phenomenal Bible teachers regarding the Gospel and doctrine, and they are sincere, big-hearted lovers of souls, which is the right place to begin. So, they, too, are ready.

This is amazing and very exciting.

[aegsm76]

3 more baptized, this weekend!

Almost 30 new contact forms turned in!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

3 more baptized, this weekend!

Almost 30 new contact forms turned in!

Praise Jesus!

[aegsm76]

1 filled with the Holy Ghost and 3 baptized this weekend!
Also, one long time backslider prayed back through!
So many visitors that I did not get the exact count, but probably 20-25!

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

1 filled with the Holy Ghost and 3 baptized this weekend!
Also, one long time backslider prayed back through!
So many visitors that I did not get the exact count, but probably 20-25!