Is Jesus Christ The Man Jesus Christ Now ?

[Michael The Disciple]

As a man Jesus is subject to God. There is a real relationship.

1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev. 1:1

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

As a man Jesus is subject to God. There is a real relationship.

1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev. 1:1

Right, therefore, he is positioning himself, with scripture, as the High Priest and mediator.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

As a man Jesus is subject to God. There is a real relationship.

1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev. 1:1

Amen and amen. It is still there.

[mfblume]

You know, folks, people can say this is not so and that is not so, but we need bible to substantiate our claims. Disagree, fine. But until bible evidence is supplied to prove your point, then the disagreement is foundless. I cannot see how, in light of all the scriptures we provided in Hebrews, a person can say Christ is not still acting as High Priest in Heaven, making intercession for us as we speak.

Originally Posted by mfblume

You know, folks, people can say this is not so and that is not so, but we need bible to substantiate our claims. Disagree, fine. But until bible evidence is supplied to prove your point, then the disagreement is foundless. I cannot see how, in light of all the scriptures we provided in Hebrews, a person can say Christ is not still acting as High Priest in Heaven, making intercession for us as we speak.

Well, here's the one supporting what I said earlier: 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (underlining is mine for emphasis).

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Chan

Well, here's the one supporting what I said earlier: 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (underlining is mine for emphasis).

And that is all we need to substantiate that He is STILL ACTING as high priest now.

And there's lots more.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by mfblume

No I do not. I say this because we distinctly reasd he ever liveth TO MAKE INTERCESSION for the saints. It does not say He ever liveth AFTER HE MADE intercession.

I believe He actually sits there as mediator right now and until all enemies are under his feet, when death is destroyed. The aspect of sitting til all enemies are under his feet was a present day reality to Paul, while Paul was saved long after the cross.



HE HAS an uncheangeable preisthood, NOT HAD as if it was past tense.

Although the cross occurred once and for all, He continues to intercede as high priest. Since intercession is mentioned explicitly as something occuring due to His ever living state, contrasted with the old testament priests who died and ended their ministries, I see a continuing intercession and priesthood.

I also believe He is STILL FULLY MAN AND FULLY GOD. Simply because He has glorified flesh, does not mean he is not still fully man. He is simply fully man as God created man to be... without death, as we shall be.



Well, we have to disagree here too. He is seated (not running around - ) making intercession for me! Present tense.



I disagree his intercession was finished at the cross. He BEGAN intercession as PRIEST AFTER the cross. He is STILL making intercession. Otherwise we would not read "He ever liveth TO MAKE INTERCESSION for us". The point of Hebrews is to teach that He does not exchange positions with anotehr as in the days of old. He continues always. He is PRIEST UPON HIS THRONE.

He never even entered the most holy place TIL AFTER THE CROSS when He presented His blood. How could he be high priest while ON the cross?

He is God almighty and redeemer and saviour, BUT ALSO HIGH PRIEST Still.



If He sat on the throne after His priesthood was done, we would not read HE IS "PRIEST UPON HIS THRONE".

Notice the COUNSEL OF HIS PEACE SHALL BE BETWEEN THEM BOTH. Mediator!

Call the law we totally agree.

[Steve Epley]

Elder Blume on this subject we do agree.

At Calvary he was the sacrifice he resurrected to become the High Priest.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Elder Blume on this subject we do agree.

At Calvary he was the sacrifice he resurrected to become the High Priest.

Bro., I think we agree on REALLY MAJOR issues, you know.

[Steve Epley]

Bishop S. C. Johnson taught there is NO Son of God Now he had a pamphlet on it.
Some in the area I was raised in believed this. However the Bible clearly says He is the most certainly the Son now and as Son He is our Great High Priest.
The late R.C. Cavaness used to say we need a High Priest in the Church as bad as we needed a Saviour in the world. I believe it.