Removing Zionism From the Chruch

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

One may say it is semantics of using the word genocide. Here are few statistics you may want to consider. Because of the Christian Zionist lobbyist it is our tax dollars funding this conflict.

94% — Percentage of Palestine inhabited by Palestinians in 1946.
15% — Percentage of Palestine inhabited by Palestinians today.
5 million — Number of Palestinians currently living in foreign refugee camps.
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8,701 — Number of Palestinians killed by Israelis since 2000.
1,138 — Number of Israelis killed by Palestinians since 2000.
8:1 — Ratio of Palestinian-Israeli deaths since 2000.
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1,772 — Number of Palestinian children killed by Israelis since 2000.
93 — Number of Israeli children killed by Palestinians since 2000.
19:1 — Ratio of Palestinian-Israeli child deaths since 2000.
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$3 billion — Average annual US aid to Israel over the past 20 years.
25% — Percentage of the entire annual US foreign aid budget that goes to Israel.

I believe we agree that this type of funding needs to stop.

And these deaths have resulted from retaliatory strikes by Israel. What is now Jordan was intended to be a Palestinian State. The Arab countries have consistently refused to help these people. This can all end when the Palestinians agree to Statehood, that they have been offered many times, and then acknowledge Israel's right to exist. All in all, none of this is America's problem.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I would think it would be a sin to be allies with antichrist.

So, Israel is the antichrist and the US its ally and that is a sin is credited to the church and is blocking the church from having a revival?

And, There is no way to repent from that and we are doomed to destruction?

If that is the case I'm going to spend the day in bed eating chocolate.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by Originalist

And these deaths have resulted from retaliatory strikes by Israel. What is now Jordan was intended to be a Palestinian State. The Arab countries have consistently refused to help these people. This can all end when the Palestinians agree to Statehood, that they have been offered many times, and then acknowledge Israel's right to exist. All in all, none of this is America's problem.

Your statement is repeating the Jewish Media Hegelian Dialectic It is obvious that cognitive dissonance is in play. This is a straw man argument that is unprofitable to the point. The point is removing Zionism from the church.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

Amanda,

Your own words show me that you are caught up in their dialectic narrative. And I was just as you until my eyes were opened. It doesn't mean I am more knowledgeable than you. It just means I have opened myself up to be labeled Anti Semitic, fascist and all the derogatory terms that are used when one comes against their Masonic System.

Yes, revival comes from witnessing, prayer and fasting. But if you have sin in the camp it will hinder the anointing in the churches.

Be Blessed.

I wouldn't call the embrace of Israel "sin" as much as it is a Charismatic fad hype. Though I sympathize with Israel from a secular stand-point, I, like you, have not been received too warmly when I have spoken up about Jewish over-representation in the Bolshevik overthrow of Russia, Jewish back-stabbing of Germany during WW 1, over representation of Jews in modern leftist causes of trying to Islamize Europe, and questioning of the official holocaust numbers. On the latter, I do not deny many Jews were targeted and killed, but simply having questions about the official number has gotten me labeled as being a Nazi, holocaust denier, etc.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

Your statement is repeating the Jewish Media Hegelian Dialectic It is obvious that cognitive dissonance is in play. This is a straw man argument that is unprofitable to the point. The point is removing Zionism from the church.

You are the one who brought up these points, not me. It is not propaganda to say Jordan should be ruled by Palestinians instead of the 20% minority group which currently rules there. I do believe God brought the Jews home in 1948, to judge them.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

The point is removing Zionism from the church.

I never hear Zionism preached, ever, so my local assembly must be good to go then.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Genocide? Please. Those terrorists will use women, children, the elderly and the infirm to hide behind. It's not genocide for Israel to attack them, it's self defense. Any collateral damage is due to their own actions, not that of Israel.

There is no country called Palestine, and there is no "Palestinians". The people there came from castaways after the 7 day war, when Israel's neighbors decided to try and wipe them off the map. They were rejected by every Muslim country around them, even to this day. If they would stop trying to blow up Israelis, they'd find they could actually live in peace with them. However, Islam knows nothing of peace.



So, we should feel sorry for the terrorists because they're not killing Israelis faster than they're being killed?

Again, this is the Jewish Media Hegelian Dialectic. You form your opinions from the media. I neither support the apartheid police state of Israel or terrorism.

This land was actually part of the Ottoman Empire that was cut out after World War 1. Britain and France created today's Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Iran. The Zionist made a deal with Britain that if they would get America to help them defeat Germany if they would give them the Palestine area of Jordan. The Balfour agreement gave the Zionist the right to form the state of Israel. The spoils to the victors!

The Balfour Declaration was a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

How would you like someone invading your state that you live in and systematically removing your family from their homes. Oh, but this is Israel's homeland. No, ergo back to my original statement that Talmudic Jews are not the Hebrew Israelites of the Bible. They have no rights to push these people out.

Again, this is going off script about Zionism in our churches.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

Again, this is the Jewish Media Hegelian Dialectic. You form your opinions from the media. I neither support the apartheid police state of Israel or terrorism.

This land was actually part of the Ottoman Empire that was cut out after World War 1. Britain and France created today's Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Iran. The Zionist made a deal with Britain that if they would get America to help them defeat Germany if they would give them the Palestine area of Jordan. The Balfour agreement gave the Zionist the right to form the state of Israel. The spoils to the victors!

The Balfour Declaration was a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

How would you like someone invading your state that you live in and systematically removing your family from their homes. Oh, but this is Israel's homeland. No, ergo back to my original statement that Talmudic Jews are not the Hebrew Israelites of the Bible. They have no rights to push these people out.

Again, this is going off script about Zionism in our churches.

Like happened in the book of Joshua you mean?

And it was not a "state". But yes, I agree with your assessment of the events surrounding the Balfour Declaration.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I never hear Zionism preached, ever, so my local assembly must be good to go then.

I am sure not all churches are pro Israel. And there are Pastors who are aware and keep it away from their flock.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Like happened in the book of Joshua you mean?

And it was not a "state". But yes, I agree with your assessment of the events surrounding the Balfour Declaration.

Your right about the land, but a “3rd Regathering” Of The Hebrews Was Never Predicted In The Bible.