Election 2016: The Powerful vs. The People

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Hey, Deacon. Don't think it hasn't passed observation that you didn't have any skin in the game until you saw which way the wind was blowing. I put my name down for Ted Cruz before he announced, so stop embarrassing yourself.

Nice try. I wanted Carson in my primary but I didn't think he'd defeat Trump. I voted to Cruz. Congratulations on your selection of Cruiz so early!

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So the nevertrumpsters are in favour of maintaining the status quo and playing "it's our turn" politics, as the national Uniparty continues riding the gravy train?

lol

Sounds about right.

Being opposed to Trump was never about supporting the status quo. It was about not allowing him to become our standard bearer against the status quo.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Being opposed to Trump was never about supporting the status quo. It was about not allowing him to become our standard bearer against the status quo.

Which was such a short term point of view IMO. It just never made sense to me that it was more important to allow HRC to continue the arc that BO had established for eight years for at least another four, affecting the Supreme Court for two to three generations, keeping America in a feckless position in the world, and maintaining a weak economy than to elect DT. The Democrats had the uphill climb to take the Senate and the even tougher challenge of wresting control of the House from the GOP. It wasn't a stretch to believe that at the least a GOP controlled House would help keep a President Trump in check, keep him leaning right, and bringing about a change to the direction of the country. The #NeverTrump movement just never could understand what was at stake in this election.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Which was such a short term point of view IMO. It just never made sense to me that it was more important to allow HRC to continue the arc that BO had established for eight years for at least another four, affecting the Supreme Court for two to three generations, keeping America in a feckless position in the world, and maintaining a weak economy than to elect DT. The Democrats had the uphill climb to take the Senate and the even tougher challenge of wresting control of the House from the GOP. It wasn't a stretch to believe that at the least a GOP controlled House would help keep a President Trump in check, keep him leaning right, and bringing about a change to the direction of the country. The #NeverTrump movement just never could understand what was at stake in this election.

We understood what was at stake, we just disagreed with you on the best course of action. In my opinion (and - I presume - that of others who opposed Trump), focusing on Trump for this election was the short term view. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Hillary lost, but I'm not glad it was Trump who won.

Don't patronize the rest of us, just because we disagree with you.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Hillary lost, but I'm not glad it was Trump who won.

Exactly. I'm very happy Hillary lost. I'm not happy the fake conservative won.

[Carl]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So the nevertrumpsters are in favour of maintaining the status quo and playing "it's our turn" politics, as the national Uniparty continues riding the gravy train?

lol

Sounds about right.

Well which side should they have been on? Trump or his supporters? Sounds like you are in favor of those who would be storming the Bastille?

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

It wasn't a stretch to believe that at the least a GOP controlled House would help keep a President Trump in check, keep him leaning right, and bringing about a change to the direction of the country.

Really? Not a stretch? Have you seen how much our "GOP controlled congress" has done next to nothing to stop Obama? And you think they are going to pull Trump to the right? Maybe if we put enough pressure on our representatives, but I don't see them doing it on their own.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jito463

We understood what was at stake, we just disagreed with you on the best course of action. In my opinion (and - I presume - that of others who opposed Trump), focusing on Trump for this election was the short term view. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Hillary lost, but I'm not glad it was Trump who won.

Don't patronize the rest of us, just because we disagree with you.

Relax. Just because I disagree with you and point out why I think your thinking was flawed doesn't mean I'm patronizing you.

My focus wasn't Trump. My focus was "Defear Hillary". There are many of us conservatives that understood the consequences of another four years at least of a liberal Democrat in office. You all are going to be pleasantly surprised the next four years. Will DT get it right every time? No. Will he find himself crossways with conservatives? More than likely. But the slouch will be toward us not against us. I'll take that any day.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Really? Not a stretch? Have you seen how much our "GOP controlled congress" has done next to nothing to stop Obama? And you think they are going to pull Trump to the right? Maybe if we put enough pressure on our representatives, but I don't see them doing it on their own.

Why do you think Mike Pence is VP? He's an acknowledgment by Trump that he needs conservatives to coalesce with him.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Relax. Just because I disagree with you and point out why I think your thinking was flawed doesn't mean I'm patronizing you.

You don't think this is patronizing?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

The #NeverTrump movement just never could understand what was at stake in this election.

You assume our opposition to him was due to ignorance on our part. That's patronizing.