Women Cutting Their Hair, Please Help.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Well, I have no problem following the standards of the UPC even if I know they are sometimes wrong because I want unity in our church. Also, I have no problem trusting those who are older and have more wisdom than me. But it amazes me that people I know who have been to Bible College can't even agree that this passage of scripture might at least be debatable.

Is it unity? Or conformity?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It's not uncut, it's just LONG. Let's not change the Word of God.

Galatians 10:6 - 10:“ I wonder, at how you so speedily move from the one who called to you in the grace of Christ, to another gospel…. those who upset you and meaning to turn about the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preaches to you the gospel different to how we preach it, let it be an anathema ….if anyone preaches to you differently than what was received by you, le it be an anathema”

Proverbs 30:5 - 6: “Every word of the Lord is tested….. Do not add to His words, in case He ever checks you and you are found to be a liar”


Deuteronomy 4: 2: “You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor shall you deduct from it, so that you might guard the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you”

Deuteronomy 12:32: “Everything that I command you to do, make sure that you do it; you shall not add to it, nor remove anything from it”



Revelations 22 “…to the prophecy of this book if anyone adds anything, God shall add upon him afflictions…. And if anyone removes something from the book of this prophecy, God shall remove….. from the tree of life…”

Originally Posted by mfblume

It's not uncut, it's just LONG. Let's not change the Word of God.

Keep in mind that one man's short is another woman's long! It then becomes relative and unable to be defined other than in a personally subjective manner. Therefore, there is no real expectation regarding hair and the writing of Paul is egregious and superfluous!

[ILG]

What I want to know is if it is a shame for a man to have long hair, why did God command Samson not to cut his?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by philjones

Keep in mind that one man's short is another woman's long! It then becomes relative and unable to be defined other than in a personally subjective manner. Therefore, there is no real expectation regarding hair and the writing of Paul is egregious and superfluous!

Agreed ... but to add to the word and state it should be UNCUT is dangerous ground to tread.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Agreed ... but to add to the word and state it should be UNCUT is dangerous ground to tread.

Without a doubt, adding to the Word of God is grievous error!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by ILG

What I want to know is if it is a shame for a man to have long hair, why did God command Samson not to cut his?

Bump! I'm serious folks. I don't want men to have long hair and I do believe it is a shame, but I don't get this and never have.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by philjones

Keep in mind that one man's short is another woman's long! It then becomes relative and unable to be defined other than in a personally subjective manner. Therefore, there is no real expectation regarding hair and the writing of Paul is egregious and superfluous!

There are extremes both ways, for sure, and both are wrong. I think the line we have to draw cannot be made with a ruler. It is when something LOOKS masculine and no longer feminine that it is short. The spirit of a thing is the entire point.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by ILG

Bump! I'm serious folks. I don't want men to have long hair and I do believe it is a shame, but I don't get this and never have.

Samson was a nazarite from what I understand. A jewish boy will have his head shaved at his Bar-mizvah when he turns 13. A Nazarite would not shave his head if he had a nazarite vow. The story of Samson was that he was not to have a razor to his head, not that he wasn't allowed to cut his hair with shears, there is a difference between allowing a razor to come to your hair, and allowing shears (or scissors) to come to your hair. I hope this helps. see Judges 13:5 It says razor, not shears according to the custom of the Jewish Nazarite vow.

[Tech]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Ok, so basically I am UPC and have been all of my life. And as much as I want to believe what I have been taught it is very hard for me to get that a woman's hair should be uncut based on 1 Corinthians 11.

Can anyone help me reconcile myself with the UPC doctrine?

You will not be able to reconcile yourself with this UPC doctrine, because that is not what it says.

It is sad for me to see some of the ladies that i grew up with that are elderly now.Becuse they never trimmed the dead ends off their hair ,it is unhealthy and some are loosing their hair.It makes no sense to me at all.

Some local Pentecostal ladies were eating lunch with my wife a while back.They told her it was wrong for her to cut her hair,but they could teach her how to break it off with a hot curling iron.

I am curious ,is this a common practice?