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Old 04-21-2015, 05:03 AM
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

I thought droughts and stuff were a sign of Divine Judgment? Or is that thinking passe these days?
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:28 AM
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

well, and then you have manufactured droughts, the Aral Sea disaster, etc. I'm reading pretty good evidence that that is what we have here, too. This drought is most likely manufactured to further the illusion of scarcity. All of the water that Noah saw is still right here, and we know where it is.
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Old 04-21-2015, 11:57 AM
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

funny that the first thing we bombed in Libya was the "Great Man-Made River Project."
http://humanrightsinvestigations.org...er-nato-bombs/
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:17 PM
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

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I thought droughts and stuff were a sign of Divine Judgment? Or is that thinking passe these days?
I actually see value in that. God's will.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:19 PM
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I thought droughts and stuff were a sign of Divine Judgment? Or is that thinking passe these days?
California has a history of droughts going back to the first settlers...I imagine it had droughts before that too.

The difference is we have more people using water now. But really the drought is just a lack of rain but we could have lessened the effect had we built more reservoirs and allowed less water to wash into the ocean

A few desalination plants would not hurt either
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well, and then you have manufactured droughts, the Aral Sea disaster, etc. I'm reading pretty good evidence that that is what we have here, too. This drought is most likely manufactured to further the illusion of scarcity. All of the water that Noah saw is still right here, and we know where it is.
The drought is real, so far as rain and snow packs go. It's manufactured in the sense that our government has done nothing in decades to capture previous rain falls by building new reservoirs or desalinization plants
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

yes, sounds right. i mean, let's all build swimming pools in the desert, lol. Just begging for it when a drought hits.
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:48 AM
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Recycling the wastewater would more than solve the problem. Over 200 million gallons per day of water is treated and discharged to the sea. I would feel proud to see Californians drinking their wastewater. Just needs bio treatment.
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

humans seem to have a long history of turning garden into desert, i'm reading.
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Old 04-22-2015, 12:50 PM
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Re: Politicains/Environmentalists Caused the Probl

These the same books that teach how societies deplete resources and simply disappear?

http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss1/art6/

The impressive temples and pyramids of ancient times are symbols of mighty societies. How is it possible that such highly developed societies have disappeared? One explanation is that the environmental resource base of these societies was depleted (Tainter 1988, Yoffee and Cowgill 1988, Ponting 1991, Diamond 1997, 2002). The Mayan, Mesopotamian, and Polynesian societies are famous examples of collapses that were likely caused by resource depletion (Tainter 1988, Ponting 1991). Mesopotamia, lying in the river basins of the Tigris and the Euphrates, was able to build up a complex society through intensive agriculture and excessive irrigation. However, their irrigation practices led to a rise in saline groundwater, thus destroying agricultural productivity. In a similar manner, intensive agricultural practices led to soil erosion and decreasing agricultural productivity. The Polynesians who discovered and settled on Easter Island also developed a society in the 1000 years following their arrival, but they deforested the island and greatly reduced the terrestrial resources necessary to sustain the increasing population and ritual activities. Their society had collapsed before the Europeans arrived in 1722.
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