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03-16-2014, 02:02 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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ya, good luck with that--put it to a 'democratic' vote, and see what happens ![Laughing Out Loud](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)
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Yeah, let's have national votes on all issues and stop letting politicians decide what our policies should be.
Politicians say one thing to get elected and then do whatever they want after they are in power.
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03-16-2014, 03:39 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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Yeah, let's have national votes on all issues and stop letting politicians decide what our policies should be.
Politicians say one thing to get elected and then do whatever they want after they are in power.
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That would be a disaster. What if the majority voted in communism? We are a union of States, not a democracy. Thank God the majority can only rule where the Constitution allows it to.
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03-16-2014, 03:43 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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Well we gave chemical weapons to Sadam, and we gave weapons and training to a bunch of Afghans to fight against the Russians.
How did that work out for us? Maybe we should stop helping.
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I was referring to aiding democracies, not dictatorships. But point taken. We however always seem to prevent democratic nations from even building their own nukes. Can you imagine the hissy fit the U.S. and the UN would have if South Korea for example announced they were building nukes?
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03-16-2014, 03:55 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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I hope that is true, it would stink if enemies can down our drones by using electronics.
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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Those are NATO
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03-16-2014, 04:44 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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That would be a disaster. What if the majority voted in communism? We are a union of States, not a democracy. Thank God the majority can only rule where the Constitution allows it to.
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I wasn't talking about voting in a whole new system. You took what I said to the extreme to strengthen your point. It did not work. There would be limitations to what could be voted on.
California voted three times not to have gay marriage. Three times judges ruled from the bench and overturned the will of the people.
Nobody thinks it is a good idea to vote on foreign policy? I was for the Iraq war at the time. Now looking back I think how could I have supported going into Iraq. Maybe if we had voted on it cooler heads would have prevailed.
We send tons of money to nations overseas. Hey if we voted on it and my side loses O.K. I understand, but at least everybody was given a chance to voice their opinion. Unlike the current dictatorship of crony capitalism that is in bed with the banks and the industrial military complex.
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03-16-2014, 08:18 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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I wasn't talking about voting in a whole new system. You took what I said to the extreme to strengthen your point. It did not work. There would be limitations to what could be voted on.
California voted three times not to have gay marriage. Three times judges ruled from the bench and overturned the will of the people.
Nobody thinks it is a good idea to vote on foreign policy? I was for the Iraq war at the time. Now looking back I think how could I have supported going into Iraq. Maybe if we had voted on it cooler heads would have prevailed.
We send tons of money to nations overseas. Hey if we voted on it and my side loses O.K. I understand, but at least everybody was given a chance to voice their opinion. Unlike the current dictatorship of crony capitalism that is in bed with the banks and the industrial military complex. ![blahblahblah](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/blah2.gif)
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I think the answer is simply sticking to the constitution.
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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03-16-2014, 08:51 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
We are not sticking to the constitution now! ![Laughing Out Loud](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/lol.gif) ! ![Too Funny](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/toofunny.gif) !
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03-16-2014, 09:10 PM
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Re: Russia Shoots Down American Drone in Crimea!
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We are not sticking to the constitution now! ![Laughing Out Loud](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/lol.gif) ! ![Too Funny](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/toofunny.gif) ! ![You are so funny!](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/ursofunny.gif)
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EXACTLY. And THAT is the problem, not a lack of national referendums. .
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