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NO- the Bible forbids cutting womens hair for any reason
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Yes- the bible promotes long hair but medical treatment would be an exception
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Yes- the Bible does not forbid the cutting of women's hair at all
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I'm not sure
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06-04-2013, 05:37 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
This thread sounds like a thread to either paint people in a corner or to justify someone's sin.... Or both. I would answer if this wasn't hypothetical but rather someone that honestly needed the answer for their personal situation.
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You may have missed my opening post? This has actually happened to many women I know... They struggle terribly with condemnation over cutting or losing hair related to medical procedures when they are already sick in their bodies and often terribly afraid as death seems much nearer when one has a cancer diagnosis.
It is BECAUSE OF this burden I've seen placed on women that I asked the question. So please do answer and help me and my Christian sisters know how we should view our hair when cutting it or sacrificing it for medical treatment might save our lives.
JD made a great point in that the JWs are, almost to a man, willing to refuse blood...at least until death is near, then a family member usually consents while the patient is unconscious. It's this little niggling doubt that they have that says 'what if I'm wrong and I kill my parent, sibling, child by not allowing them to have blood, even if I would refuse it for myself?'
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06-04-2013, 08:10 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
They always say "in the mouths of two or three witnesses, let every word be established".....until they want to command no hair cutting. And, really, it never even says that once.
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06-04-2013, 09:35 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
You may have missed my opening post? This has actually happened to many women I know... They struggle terribly with condemnation over cutting or losing hair related to medical procedures when they are already sick in their bodies and often terribly afraid as death seems much nearer when one has a cancer diagnosis.
It is BECAUSE OF this burden I've seen placed on women that I asked the question. So please do answer and help me and my Christian sisters know how we should view our hair when cutting it or sacrificing it for medical treatment might save our lives.
JD made a great point in that the JWs are, almost to a man, willing to refuse blood...at least until death is near, then a family member usually consents while the patient is unconscious. It's this little niggling doubt that they have that says 'what if I'm wrong and I kill my parent, sibling, child by not allowing them to have blood, even if I would refuse it for myself?'
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I have never heard of anyone in my short few years of life feel condemned about losing hair, cancer or not.......
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06-04-2013, 09:48 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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I have never heard of anyone in my short few years of life feel condemned about losing hair, cancer or not.......
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Really? I've met several women who had hair growing back in after chemo... first words out of their mouths to me (because I have 'the look') is something to assure me that they DID NOT cut their hair off.
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06-04-2013, 10:02 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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I have never heard of anyone in my short few years of life feel condemned about losing hair, cancer or not.......
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You must not have known any women who had been conditioned to believe they were going to hell if they didn't have "long" hair - whether uncut or not. I
have known several that went through losing their hair either to chemo or another physical condition. Some even wore wigs that were "long" hair so that it would appear they hadn't cut their hair. I know one particular minister's wife who had very expensive extensions put in her hair so that it would appear "long."
It has broken my heart to see the condemnation that some women have felt from this.
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06-05-2013, 06:35 AM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
You must not have known any women who had been conditioned to believe they were going to hell if they didn't have "long" hair - whether uncut or not. I
have known several that went through losing their hair either to chemo or another physical condition. Some even wore wigs that were "long" hair so that it would appear they hadn't cut their hair. I know one particular minister's wife who had very expensive extensions put in her hair so that it would appear "long."
It has broken my heart to see the condemnation that some women have felt from this.
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Very true Sweet Pea. I had several sisters in our last church that, for whatever reason, just did not grow amazing hair... whether it was just not very long or was sparse. Since all adult women were required to wear their hair up actual length could not be seen... But because they did not have the 'big buns' or fantastic updos of many of the other women, they would add hair pieces. Hair that clips into the natural hair or hair that is attached to a rubber band was cheap and easy to get and used to make hair look fuller and longer to enhance the 'Pentecostal' look. Of course that was just aesthetic and not related to illness but shows the mindset.
When my friend got colon cancer MOST of the talk between the women included whether or not she would lose her hair with treatment. She was Very concerned about it and was unwilling to cut it if it started to fall out with chemo. She had a plan to very tightly braid it and wait for it to all fall out together (sounded horrible to me) and then wear a wig. But the point is that this was even on her mind when she was facing losing her life (stage 4 so very possible) and should have been focused on so many other spiritual things.
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06-05-2013, 06:47 AM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
I have never heard of anyone in my short few years of life feel condemned about losing hair, cancer or not.......
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I know someone going thru chemo now and she has had comments directed to her that since she trimmed her hair before all this, she did not have God's covering over her and protection so that is why all this is happening. So sad that we think this way, that God brings sickness on people because of cut hair?
God bless
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06-05-2013, 08:01 AM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
Some women get alopecia too. That would be a bad thing to have in the UPC.
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06-05-2013, 03:11 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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Originally Posted by BalancedLife
I believe if a woman decides to not cut her hair, more power to her!
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That's exactly what the 'uncut hair' folks believe!! LOL!
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06-05-2013, 03:14 PM
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Re: OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment?
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Originally Posted by ILG
Some women get alopecia too. That would be a bad thing to have in the UPC.
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I know a couple of women with this. Instead, they wear sinful wigs.
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