No Miranda Rights For Bombing Suspect

[n david]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

He is a legal permanent resident of the United States of America.

He's actually a Naturalized citizen, as of 9/11/2012.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The reason why they want to not issue the Miranda and keep him as an enemy combatant is for possible intell from interrogations.

As soon as you read him his rights and he "lawers up", you lose that ability.

I know their reasons and claims for wanting it, however, he's a citizen with due process rights and I am against the govt taking those rights away for anyone.

Originally Posted by canam

there will be no miranda therefore they can do anything they want inc sending him to gitmo

Thanks to Republicans in the House and this President, the passage of last years NDAA allows the govt to hold him indefinitely wherever they choose.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

American citizens should not be sent to Gitmo unless they're guilty of war crimes.

American citizens should NEVER be sent to Gitmo. Never.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by n david

I know their reasons and claims for wanting it, however, he's a citizen with due process rights and I am against the govt taking those rights away for anyone.

I addressed that. His brother was not. He had possible ties to terrorist groups and possibly trained in Chechnya by Islamic extremists. All the flags have the earmarks of Islamic Extremists and we are essentially at war with them and it appears this kid worked in cohoots with the enemy. That makes him an enemy combatant

[canam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I addressed that. His brother was not. He had possible ties to terrorist groups and possibly trained in Chechnya by Islamic extremists. All the flags have the earmarks of Islamic Extremists and we are essentially at war with them and it appears this kid worked in cohoots with the enemy. That makes him an enemy combatant

which trumps his due rights imo for both of em he should neevr see the light of day agin

[n david]

Mark it down....Jermy take notice: I agree with Obama's decision to not classify the terrorist as an enemy combatant. This is, I believe the first and likely last time I will ever agree with the President.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I understand your logic and the caution, but I don't think that this 19 year old will be able to shed light on too much. Sure he'll have some information that "we" don't know, but at the end of the day we'll discover that he was following his older brother's lead and that they both became radicalized America-haters and decided to cowardly attack the country that gave him and his ingrate dead brother a chance for a better life.

The 19 year old could almost be guilty of treason, especially if he is labeled as an "enemy combatant"-- which in this case I think would not be appropriate.

That may be true but we won't know unless he is alive.

[canam]

Local radio is now referring to the dead one as Speed Bump ., the other one is Flash Bang LOL

[deafdriscoll]

question for thought - does this bombing cancel his citizenship? it could because he broke an oath to be loyal to our country.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by n david

He's actually a Naturalized citizen, as of 9/11/2012.


I know their reasons and claims for wanting it, however, he's a citizen with due process rights and I am against the govt taking those rights away for anyone.


Thanks to Republicans in the House and this President, the passage of last years NDAA allows the govt to hold him indefinitely wherever they choose.


American citizens should NEVER be sent to Gitmo. Never.

*sigh*...

(That was a sigh of relief by the way.)

Few people understand the importance of these things.

[n david]

Originally Posted by deafdriscoll

question for thought - does this bombing cancel his citizenship? it could because he broke an oath to be loyal to our country.

Would it be any different if he used an assault rifle? Sword, gun, bomb, toothpick, tank. The weapon doesn't change his citizenship, nor the rights that come with it.

[odooley6985]

Question does not being read miranda rights equate to you not being given them?