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05-31-2007, 09:40 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
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05-31-2007, 09:42 PM
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Saved & Shaved
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SOUTH ZION
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
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Yes.
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05-31-2007, 09:47 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
I may be wrong about his history, but wasn't he at one time a pentecostal holiness preacher?
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No, you may be thinking of Oral Roberts.
He was Pentecostal Holiness.
Some years back he joined the UMC.
I don't know if he's still affiliated with either of those groups.
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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05-31-2007, 09:53 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
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Remember the quote from Bro. Goss, the first Gen. Supt. of the UPC,
"even the Baptists will be in the Bride of Christ."
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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05-31-2007, 09:58 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
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"Though his voice may be among the most prominent of evangelical leaders who decry the ghoulish practice of abortion, Dr. Billy Graham, the Prince of Preachers practices spiritual abortion evry time one of his crusades invades a city! Proclaiming the deceptive practice of 'accepting Christ' as salvation, Dr. Graham is one of Hell's superstars in twisting scriptures to produce no effect! How many people leave a Graham crusade thinking they're 'saved,' when really all they have received is an evening feel-good religiosity?"
Jim H. Yohe, The New Birth Manifesto, 1994
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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06-01-2007, 01:12 AM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
Posts: 2,399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Remember the quote from Bro. Goss, the first Gen. Supt. of the UPC,
"even the Baptists will be in the Bride of Christ."
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Ole Goss did miss it a few times, and that was one of them.
I guess I will be the 1st nay-sayer.
While I believe Billy Graham is a very moral man, I also believe he will have caused more folks to be lost by giving them a false hope of salvation than any other man in our time.
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06-01-2007, 01:16 AM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Stockton, California
Posts: 5,376
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Ole Goss did miss it a few times, and that was one of them.
I guess I will be the 1st nay-sayer.
While I believe Billy Graham is a very moral man, I also believe he will have caused more folks to be lost by giving them a false hope of salvation than any other man in our time.
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We appreciate George Washington.. Abe Lincoln.. and Dave Crockett... we appreciate men like James Dobson and even George Bush... We appreciate Ronald Reagan and others...
I don't think we have to agree doctrinally to appreciate somebody.. do we?
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06-01-2007, 01:17 AM
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Step By Step - Day By Day
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,648
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Ole Goss did miss it a few times, and that was one of them.
I guess I will be the 1st nay-sayer.
While I believe Billy Graham is a very moral man, I also believe he will have caused more folks to be lost by giving them a false hope of salvation than any other man in our time.
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"Caused" them to be lost? How so? You don't think God is able to complete what He starts? He said that He would complete the work He starts in us.
Many many many apostolics got their "start" under BG's ministry. What if they'd never heard the Gospel preached?
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Smiles & Blessings....
~Felicity Welsh~
(surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
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06-01-2007, 01:18 AM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 626
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
Ole Goss did miss it a few times, and that was one of them.
I guess I will be the 1st nay-sayer.
While I believe Billy Graham is a very moral man, I also believe he will have caused more folks to be lost by giving them a false hope of salvation than any other man in our time.
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your  - but quite worthless as real puchasing value.
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06-01-2007, 01:23 AM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sparta, TN
Posts: 2,399
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felicity
"Caused" them to be lost? How so? You don't think God is able to complete what He starts? He said that He would complete the work He starts in us.
Many many many apostolics got their "start" under BG's ministry. What if they'd never heard the Gospel preached?
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God is well able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we can ask or think. But BG causes folks to feel that they have arrived, and as a consequence causes many to stop their pursuit of God.
Not saying that some will not follow on to know the Lord. But I do believe he promotes a false hope that many will stop at, thinking they are ok.
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