No argument here. But it's still funny that you think "another young American is dead" indicated liberal bias. (If that was the line you meant)
I was actually referring to the idea that a supposedly a huge number of people die from guns for each incident of self preservation... as if maybe this woman should have sacrificed herself and her baby because somewhere else others are careless or CHOOSE to commit suicide.
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Watched it. Good footage... then the bias in the last 15 seconds of the clip.
Oh yeah... the whole guns in the home thing is very very bad. Accidental shootings happen all the time. Accidental shootings are "twenty times more likely". That someone actually has to defend themselves is very very rare.
So says the woman with NO data - zero to her claims.
Yeah the last part of that was pointedly against having firearms in the home. This girl had to wait over twenty minutes for the police to show. More data for those who say when seconds count the police are just minutes away - twenty minutes in this case. Even the broadcaster said he had waited on a 911 call for over twenty minutes. Then to end it they have to say another young American dead. How absurd. Have a pity party for that poor defenseless man breaking into a house with a 12" knife. I am sure he was just wanting a cup of sugar to go home and make some cookies.
I was actually referring to the idea that a supposedly a huge number of people die from guns for each incident of self preservation... as if maybe this woman should have sacrificed herself and her baby because somewhere else others are careless or CHOOSE to commit suicide.
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Oh yeah... the whole guns in the home thing is very very bad. Accidental shootings happen all the time. Accidental shootings are "twenty times more likely". That someone actually has to defend themselves is very very rare.
So says the woman with NO data - zero to her claims.
Yeah the last part of that was pointedly against having firearms in the home. This girl had to wait over twenty minutes for the police to show. More data for those who say when seconds count the police are just minutes away - twenty minutes in this case. Even the broadcaster said he had waited on a 911 call for over twenty minutes. Then to end it they have to say another young American dead. How absurd. Have a pity party for that poor defenseless man breaking into a house with a 12" knife. I am sure he was just wanting a cup of sugar to go home and make some cookies.
Exaclty. the "stat" that you are 20 times more likely to get hurt by accident in a home with a gun than to use the gun to put down a bad guy is just a lie.
I have looked at a big bunch of studies related and none of them suggest such a thing.
there is tons of literature out there that shows guns are used hundreds of thousands of times per year to stop violent attack. The number of accidental shootings is tiny by comparison.
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more the conflict of knowing this was a justified shooting, and the reticence to accept the use of firearms can be a right thing.
I admit my humnity. I have a weakness in not being sorry that a violent potental rapist got his come up'ns. it is certainly a fault.
I'm not sorry the guy's dead, either, as compared to some other possible outcomes; namely, to the widow or her child being harmed. And in her shoes, I would likely have done the same thing. In theory, if there were a reasonably safe and sure way to prevent the guy's death, that would have been preferable, IMO. Who knows? He might have turned his life around and become a fine citizen -- it has been known to happen. And you guys are supposed to believe that God could get ahold of him!
Anyway. Yeah. Burden schmurden.
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I'm not sorry the guy's dead, either, as compared to some other possible outcomes; namely, to the widow or her child being harmed. And in her shoes, I would likely have done the same thing. In theory, if there were a reasonably safe and sure way to prevent the guy's death, that would have been preferable, IMO. Who knows? He might have turned his life around and become a fine citizen -- it has been known to happen. And you guys are supposed to believe that God could get ahold of him!
Anyway. Yeah. Burden schmurden.
you are right on all counts. I confess my clear lack of christian charity for this particular fellow.
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It is clear this women should have just left the gun alone and explained to the criminal that she is a liberal and does not believe in violence and would appreciate him doing the same.
She could have told him that she was sure he was just misunderstood and that she or her family must have done something wrong to him in their past for him to seek to harm them and she is sorry.
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It is clear this women should have just left the gun alone and explained to the criminal that she is a liberal and does not believe in violence and would appreciate him doing the same.
She could have told him that she was sure he was just misunderstood and that she or her family must have done something wrong to him in their past for him to seek to harm them and she is sorry.
Yeah, cuz that's what liberals really think she should have done.
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