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Old 12-06-2012, 10:11 PM
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is despise a better word? that is the word db used. you didn't respond to my response to your post.
Your whole premise is wrong to begin with. Conservatives way out give liberals in charitable giving. It would be very easy to research this if you really cared about the truth.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:14 PM
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why can't governments who are made up of conscience individuals try to fulfill the biblical command? didn't god give laws to israel concerning the poor? isn't that a biblical ideal government? nations are judged as well as individuals. i think it is you that has a selective context and interpretation.

We are a union of sovereign States, not a national democracy. Petition the collective conscience of your State to adopt socialist welfare policies and leave the other 49 States alone. People locally know best how to handle their affairs without pencil pushers in Washington dictating everything. We don't need one size fits all.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:49 PM
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cut benefits to the poor. cut medicaid. cut food stamps. cut medicare. cut education. Jesus said, "what you do to the least of these, you do unto me" "blessed are the poor, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven" "sell all that you have and give to the poor and you will have treasures in heaven" "it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle"

where is the biblical command to cut taxes on the rich? where is the biblical command to help the poor?

liberals and democrats fulfill the teachings of christ more than conservatives or republicans. whose side are you on? i would rather be with christ than with deacon blues.
You really shouldn't single anyone out in your generalizations.
Implying that Deacon Blues hates anyone is not a good idea-- especially when you have no proof and the fact that he is a man of God.

You should have a little more respect for him than to post or imply something that you ALREADY KNOW is not true.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:55 PM
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Liberal tactics are to demonize the rich as they did to Romney. They portray the rich as the uncaring with enough money to solve all our problems but are hording it selfishly.

The Liberals create class warfare
Prax,
Man you know that Romney sank his own ship with his own words!

Romney gave his enemies a nuclear weapon along with the instructions on how to deploy it and the blueprints for how it's made when he wrote off half of America behind closed doors, thinking that it would never get out to the public how he REALLY feels about AMERICANS!


You know how he REALLY feels about Americans?

Check out the car he just bought-- manufactured in Slovakia!
But just about month ago, he was campaigning and trying to woo Americans who work in plants that manufacture AMERICAN cars!

Romney can keep his cheap, made in China, American flag lapel pin and all his fakery! Half of America didn't buy him and I never did!
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:48 AM
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Consider the fact also one should not spend money they do not have. A Government that is trillions of dollars in debt MUST trim its spending somehow. I believe strongly in the safety net but it can only extend itself to the limit of a balanced budget.

BTW I probably am considered poor myself so why would I hate the poor?
That also shows the government mismanages the money they take from us
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:51 AM
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Prax,
Man you know that Romney sank his own ship with his own words!
Please don't try to change the topic. I never said one word about what sank his ship. I simply pointed out how the media made him look. I never denied how he made himself look, so please drop the RINO rag ok?
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You really shouldn't single anyone out in your generalizations.
Implying that Deacon Blues hates anyone is not a good idea-- especially when you have no proof and the fact that he is a man of God.

You should have a little more respect for him than to post or imply something that you ALREADY KNOW is not true.
deacon blues supports cutting medicaid, cutting social security, cutting food stamps and cutting medicare. he is a died in the wool republican. he claims that liberals despise rich people. in my view, these positions are nonchristian whether he believes these positions are the role of government or private individuals is immaterial. these programs have helped millions of people much more than the church could have done.
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deacon blues supports cutting medicaid, cutting social security, cutting food stamps and cutting medicare. he is a died in the wool republican. he claims that liberals despise rich people. in my view, these positions are nonchristian whether he believes these positions are the role of government or private individuals is immaterial. these programs have helped millions of people much more than the church could have done.

And they should be run by the States instead of the Federal Government. We will go bankrupt and all of this will come to a haly leaving millions with nothing.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:05 PM
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Re: Why Do Conservatives Hate The Poor?

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cut benefits to the poor. cut medicaid. cut food stamps. cut medicare. cut education. Jesus said, "what you do to the least of these, you do unto me" "blessed are the poor, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven" "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven" "sell all that you have and give to the poor and you will have treasures in heaven" "it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle"

where is the biblical command to cut taxes on the rich? where is the biblical command to help the poor?

liberals and democrats fulfill the teachings of christ more than conservatives or republicans. whose side are you on? i would rather be with christ than with deacon blues.
I'm Republican. I've worked in soup kitchens. I've given my last dollar to fill up the tanks of random people who have needed. I can't tell you how many times I have given out loans and not once asked when or how the individual would pay me back. And I can't tell you how many times I haven't gotten anything back, and not once complained.

...never mind... there's no point. You have absolutely no statistics, evidence or proof behind your claim that republicans hate the poor or that liberals and democrats "follow the teachings of Christ" more then republicans.

It's clear from your last few threads that you don't even know the teachings of Christ. You haven't the slightest clue what Christ taught. PLEASE take several seats...
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:25 PM
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Re: Why Do Conservatives Hate The Poor?

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deacon blues supports cutting medicaid, cutting social security, cutting food stamps and cutting medicare. he is a died in the wool republican. he claims that liberals despise rich people. in my view, these positions are nonchristian whether he believes these positions are the role of government or private individuals is immaterial. these programs have helped millions of people much more than the church could have done.
I have seen food stamps abused more then I have seen them used responsibly.

I have seen people abuse the welfare system to the point where they have spawned 2 to 3 generations of uneducated, lazy, individuals who are not only completely useless without government aid, but are actually a danger to themselves and society. We have a welfare system that has crippled this nation's inner city because it doesn't work. We have an up and coming generation of illiterates, not only in poor communities but in middle class and rich communities.

I see it everyday amongst this nations youth. They are ungrateful, seflish, ignorant of their surroundings, unfit to vacuum the floor of most businesses, don't know how to address adults, don't know how to do anything but play video games and spend money on things they don't need.

This nation is not full of poor people because of a lack of social programs. It's because this nation lost it's character a long time ago. I don't care how much money you spend on social programs, you will continue to do so and you'll only spend more and more. Social programs will not fix poverty in America. Sorry, it won't.

You can't give money to women on their second out of wedlock child with a different father and expect her to go to school, get an education, and provide a wonderful life for her kids. Sorry 9 times out of 10 they just have another one... and possibly another, and their children learn their parent's habits and do the same thing if they live past 21, because the sad fact is our youth are dying more and more.

I have lived it. I have seen it with my own two eyes. Just about every woman I graduated with from High School years ago got pregnant out of wedlock and is either living on public assistance or struggling in some way. Many of them are on their third out of wedlock child, and if you dare tell them they did anything wrong and they don't deserve to keep having children and keep expecting government assistance they'll fight you quick fast and in a hurry, because that's the generation we live in now. I do what I want and SOMEBODY ELSE can deal with the consequences.

I spent a good amount of my time in ministry on the streets of DC preaching, witnessing, dealing with problems you couldn't imagine. The vast majority of people on public assistance will buy rims for their car before they buy food for their children. Poverty is not a huge issue, irresponsibility, lack of inspiration, laziness, slothfulness, and a sense of entitlement IS a problem. And it's a cultural problem that is draining this nation of it's resources.
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