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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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i don't advocate violence but che was fighting for freedom and social equality. is george washington, abraham lincoln, george bush a murderer?
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None of them advocated nuking a nation
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11-25-2012, 07:26 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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i don't advocate violence but che was fighting for freedom and social equality. is george washington, abraham lincoln, george bush a murderer?
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BTW you never answered my question...
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11-25-2012, 07:27 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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Sorry. But I know many refugees from Venezuela whose families owned thriving, job creating businesses. Thanks to Chavez, those businesses are no more.
What about freedom of speech? Do you think it is right that China and Venezuela to snuff out free speech?
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11-25-2012, 07:29 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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these principles haven't been tested. china seems to be working economically and venezuela is working so far due to oil revenues. america is implementing these principles with clinton and obama but it was bush that sabotaged the economy. seems to be working.
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There are a LOT of poor people in China and Venezuela.
Bush single handedly sabotaged the economy eh? lol
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11-25-2012, 07:31 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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jay, you are confused. who is more greedy, wall street or the oppressed masses? thank god a majority of americans have common sense.
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So having more money equals greed?
Having less money equals oppression?
Wow, you really have drunken the Socialist Revolution koolaid
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11-25-2012, 07:33 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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we need more progressivity in america and christians need to be aware of the alternatives and become more socially conscious. moving away from the other worldliness of salvation in the afterlife to salvation and the kingdom of God in the here and now. To help the poor is to help Christ. Our "christian" system of government should reflect that.
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What scripture do you cite for God wanting secular governments to do the work of the church?
BTW, I still think you are a parody.
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11-25-2012, 07:36 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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marx, lenin and stalin championed state socialism. Third way is not state socialim but free market socialim. you are in the wrong century. hugo chavez is a christian socialist. che is just an icon.
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Really? What makes you say that?
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11-25-2012, 07:40 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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Venezuelanalysis.com: Venezuela News, Views and Analysis is a "pro-Chávez"[1][2][3] and "left-leaning"[1][4] news website, which describes its aim as being "to provide on-going news about developments in Venezuela, as well as to contextualize this news with in-depth analysis and background information. The site says it is targeted towards academics, journalists, intellectuals, policy makers from different countries, and the general public.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelanalysis.com
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11-25-2012, 07:41 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
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Sorry. But I know many refugees from Venezuela whose families owned thriving, job creating businesses. Thanks to Chavez, those businesses are no more.
What about freedom of speech? Do you think it is right that China and Venezuela to snuff out free speech?
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Yes I wonder how the socialists would feel if they had their land taken and businesses absorbed and nationalized...how is that a free market solution?
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11-25-2012, 07:45 PM
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Re: Can a true Christiam embrace Che Guevarra ?
Dedicated Mind, how about this for a compromise? Why don't we simply follow the Constitution? Why don't we only allow the Federal Government to perform those 20 or so, few and defined powers delegated to it by the States, and allow the States to do as they see fit on the rest? That way, any State that wanted to could adopt these "progressive " policies that you condone, while citizen's of other States could adopt a more libertarian form of society if they wished. No specific philosophy or ideology should be forced on all the States from the top down, wouldn't you agree?
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