Israel: Always the Villain - Page 3

Monterrey · #21 11-25-2012, 08:41 AM

For what it is worth, WII is right about Jews today.

Most don't realize it but Jews absolutely are racist and hate Christians.

canam · #22 11-25-2012, 01:06 PM

the bottom, line is it belonged to the jews from day one, period ! because of sin they have had to fight for their survival, but there was a time when they didn't !

Sam · #23 11-25-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by canam

the bottom, line is it belonged to the jews from day one, period ! because of sin they have had to fight for their survival, but there was a time when they didn't !

The land belongs to the seed of Abraham (Genesis 12:8; 13:14-17; 15:7, 18-21; 17:8), of Isaac, and of Jacob/Israel as an everlasting possession.

Jay · #24 11-25-2012, 06:14 PM

The Bible also promises that they will eventually recognize that Jesus Christ is their Messiah. They do not yet recognize Him, but the day is coming that He will be their Savior both in this world and the world to come.

Praxeas · #25 11-25-2012, 07:03 PM

I can find quotes too. Even skinheads are not as anti-semitic

Qur'an 2:61 "Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah's wrath."

Qur'an 2:64 "But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you."

Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."

Qur'an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

Ishaq:250 "The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised."

Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."

Tabari VIII:121 "Ali struck the Jew with a swift blow that split his helmet, neck protector, and head, landing in his rear teeth. And the Muslims entered the city. Muhammad conquered the [Jewish] neighborhood. Safiyah was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal led them past some of the Jews we had slain including the woman's dead husband. When she saw them, the woman with Safiyah cried out, slapped her face, and poured dust on her head. When Allah's Prophet saw her, he said, 'Take this she-devil away from me!'"

and so much more it won't all fit

http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Jews.Islam

Walks_in_islam · #26 11-25-2012, 09:30 PM

Anti-semetic? Hardly.

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

When you believe you can lie to everyone else and you get pinned with it and called a liar that would be sort of accurate. Yes?

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."
Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

When you refer and honestly believe that everyone who is different from you are animals or monkeys then you get called an animal or monkey I guess you fairly earned it huh

Jesus summarized the devoid of sense things better

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]
15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.
23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!
33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[c]”

Innocently wondering if you would (also) like 1000 or so more? From the (er um) bible?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I can find quotes too. Even skinheads are not as anti-semitic

Qur'an 2:61 "Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah's wrath."

Qur'an 2:64 "But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you."

Ishaq:240 "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."

Ishaq:250 "The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised."

Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."

Tabari VIII:121 "Ali struck the Jew with a swift blow that split his helmet, neck protector, and head, landing in his rear teeth. And the Muslims entered the city. Muhammad conquered the [Jewish] neighborhood. Safiyah was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal led them past some of the Jews we had slain including the woman's dead husband. When she saw them, the woman with Safiyah cried out, slapped her face, and poured dust on her head. When Allah's Prophet saw her, he said, 'Take this she-devil away from me!'"

and so much more it won't all fit

http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Jews.Islam

Walks_in_islam · #27 11-25-2012, 09:31 PM

True. The seed of Abraham however includes the Arabs as well as the Jews.

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Originally Posted by Sam

The land belongs to the seed of Abraham (Genesis 12:8; 13:14-17; 15:7, 18-21; 17:8), of Isaac, and of Jacob/Israel as an everlasting possession.

Praxeas · #28 11-26-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Anti-semetic? Hardly.

Yes, did you read the quotes? I got more...

deacon blues · #29 11-26-2012, 05:53 AM

Israel offered Arafat 98% of the land he wanted for a Palestinian state in 2000 at Camp David and he turned them down. They have no desire for compromise or negotiation. They want complete destruction of Israel and genocide. Israel is about the size of New Jersey. Arab lands stretch from West Africa to the Eastern edge of the Middle East. Why won't any Arab brothers absorb the Palestinians into their countries? Why don't they want them? There's a reason. They don't like Palestinian Arabs.

Originalist · #30 11-26-2012, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

Israel offered Arafat 98% of the land he wanted for a Palestinian state in 2000 at Camp David and he turned them down. They have no desire for compromise or negotiation. They want complete destruction of Israel and genocide. Israel is about the size of New Jersey. Arab lands stretch from West Africa to the Eastern edge of the Middle East. Why won't any Arab brothers absorb the Palestinians into their countries? Why don't they want them? There's a reason. They don't like Palestinian Arabs.

Bingo!!