Ministering to the Transgendered

[Jay]

As this sin (it is a sin) becomes more common, I would not be at all surprised to see people who have done this needing our help. If they have repented, and received the Holy Ghost, They should do everything they can to correct their actions. God does not, in cases of easily recognized gender, reassign gender just because of a series of surgeries. Therefore, He did not approve the union of the two in marriage. Thus, they should obtain a legal divorce. All possible measures possible should be taken to reverse the reassignment surgeries. If this is not entirely possible, gently they should be reminded that sin sometimes leave permanent scars in our minds, emotions, spirits, and bodies. Above all, they should be guided with gentleness and care as this has become a large part of who they are, and it may take quite sometime to obtain deliverance from the mindset that they have been imprisoned in.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Jay

As this sin (it is a sin) becomes more common, I would not be at all surprised to see people who have done this needing our help. If they have repented, and received the Holy Ghost, They should do everything they can to correct their actions. God does not, in cases of easily recognized gender, reassign gender just because of a series of surgeries. Therefore, He did not approve the union of the two in marriage. Thus, they should obtain a legal divorce. All possible measures possible should be taken to reverse the reassignment surgeries. If this is not entirely possible, gently they should be reminded that sin sometimes leave permanent scars in our minds, emotions, spirits, and bodies. Above all, they should be guided with gentleness and care as this has become a large part of who they are, and it may take quite sometime to obtain deliverance from the mindset that they have been imprisoned in.

Is it a sin for someone to be born without genitals of either sex and the doctors make the person a female because it is surgically easier and then that person was raised as a female because men choose the person's gender and that person then grows up and says "I am a man?"

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Do you often call people liars? Generally if someone poses a question about something just for conversations sake they say so...

Also this happens all the time. If he had replaced pastor with 'psychiatrist' would that have made it more real?

I called nobody a liar.
Maybe he heard this story somewhere and passed it on to the forum....
All I'm saying is I don't believe the story.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by ILG

Is it a sin for someone to be born without genitals of either sex and the doctors make the person a female because it is surgically easier and then that person was raised as a female because men choose the person's gender and that person then grows up and says "I am a man?"

Absurd! How often does this happen?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Absurd! How often does this happen?

Once is enough.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Absurd! How often does this happen?

Not so absurd. It happens more often than people think. I was floored when I first watched these things, but it made me much more compassionate about these issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITuu...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQESP...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQJm...feature=relmfu

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Absurd! How often does this happen?

It happens often enough that working for nine OBs for the past 12 years we have delivered several intersex children. If you'd like to see more accurate statistical data here is a decent link. Since there are many different intersex conditions with varying degrees of severity and since it is often 'missed' at birth and or under reported the stats are not perfect and it is probably more common then even they report. Things are not always as simple as they appear.

http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency

[Titus2woman]

Oh and by the way some of these people are not even genetically male or female as we would understand it. There is much to learn about what it is to be human and we are often very simplistic in our ideas which lead us to be harsh in our judgements.

I believe that God made these people and they are as valuable as you or I.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Oh and by the way some of these people are not even genetically male or female as we would understand it. There is much to learn about what it is to be human and we are often very simplistic in our ideas which lead us to be harsh in our judgements.

I believe that God made these people and they are as valuable as you or I.

Some people who look female have male chromosomes.

[Dordrecht]

It happens often enough that working for nine OBs for the past 12 years we have delivered several intersex children.

Like 1 in a million births,
1 in 500.000 births ????????

All extremes!

Let's name this forum:

"Extremist Forum".