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Old 01-13-2012, 09:32 AM
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I forgive easily and don't hold a grudge.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:33 AM
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Timmy, tell us how to bear good fruit and measure it in thirty-fold, sixty-fold and hundred-fold.
For the first part, live unselfishly, loving your neighbor, giving, helping. For the measure part, ?
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:05 AM
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I listed a few conditions the Bible puts on forgiveness. You don't think God's forgiveness is unconditional, do you?

We could consider God's love to be unconditional, if we believe that He loves us as even as He is throwing (some of) us into hell. Those of us who don't bear good fruit (hewn down and thrown into the fire), for example.
God's love is unconditional. His conditions for forgiveness were met in Jesus Christ. Faith in Jesus imputes His righteousness to those who believe, the only condition that is required.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:07 AM
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God's love is unconditional. His conditions for forgiveness were met in Jesus Christ. Faith in Jesus imputes His righteousness to those who believe, the only condition that is required.
So it's my flawed human thinking. Reading things for what they say. Taking Jesus (as quoted in the Bible) at His word. When Jesus puts conditions on God's forgiveness, He doesn't actually mean there are conditions for us.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:09 AM
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Re: Are you as forgiving as God is?

And God will (in the future!) love us, even as He is throwing us into the lake of fire. Cool.

(Don't even try to say He won't do that; that we will send ourselves to hell. That is utterly absurd, and it isn't even in the Bible!)
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:13 AM
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So it's my flawed human thinking. Reading things for what they say. Taking Jesus (as quoted in the Bible) at His word. When Jesus puts conditions on God's forgiveness, He doesn't actually mean there are conditions for us.
Timmy,

He went way of OSAS... or so it looks.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:22 AM
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So it's my flawed human thinking. Reading things for what they say. Taking Jesus (as quoted in the Bible) at His word. When Jesus puts conditions on God's forgiveness, He doesn't actually mean there are conditions for us.
Did Jesus meet God's conditions for holiness and perfection?
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:25 AM
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And God will (in the future!) love us, even as He is throwing us into the lake of fire. Cool.

(Don't even try to say He won't do that; that we will send ourselves to hell. That is utterly absurd, and it isn't even in the Bible!)
God is holy and God is love. Every judgment He makes is righteous. There will be no injustice in His casting the wicked into the lake of fire. If a human being was doing it, it would be evil. Our Holy God can and will do it, and it will not be a contradiction to either His holiness or His love for humanity. He is not willing that any should perish but that all would come to repentance. But many will perish.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:28 AM
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Timmy,

He went way of OSAS... or so it looks.
I believe a person can backslide. I dont believe one saved always saved. But I don't believe in a God who gives up easy either.
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I believe a person can backslide. I dont believe one saved always saved. But I don't believe in a God who gives up easy either.
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