*Apostolic Identity* is concerned with preserving Apostolic distinctives and traditions that identify us culturally. David Bernard is the chief proponent.
My take: It's a new way to push those standards and traditions that can't be supported scripturally, so they must be propped up some other way.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I thought oneness people were not accepted by mainstream trinitarian circles.
So, how can anything be brought together when oneness is pretty much rejected and often looked upon as heresay?
I remember Nona Freeman telling of an incident when she and her husband were still in Africa and her husband recieving an invitation to come to a group of trinitarian missionaries to be told he would not be allowed to be a part of their group.
Her husband's response was, "that's the first time I've been thrown out of something I never belonged to."
Don't get me wrong, I don't ahere to the outward being the primary seperation and I don't adhere to anything extra biblical. I fully believe that we're known by our fruit, the first one and most important is love.
If Oneness people are not out there spewing the exclusivity jargon, there's plenty of acceptance. For example, TD Jakes. Sure Hank Hanagraaf bashes on him for it (he bashes on everyone including his mother, so, so what) but he's very accepted in the mainstream.
Why is he accepted and OP's are generally not? Because most OP's are out there propagating that they're the only ones with "The Truth."
*Apostolic Identity* is concerned with preserving Apostolic distinctives and traditions that identify us culturally. David Bernard is the chief proponent.
My take: It's a new way to push those standards and traditions that can't be supported scripturally, so they must be propped up some other way.
Ok, that's what I assumed and that's what I was looking for. As an "insider" (I think so, anyway) what is your take on this?
If Oneness people are not out there spewing the exclusivity jargon, there's plenty of acceptance. For example, TD Jakes. Sure Hank Hanagraaf bashes on him for it (he bashes on everyone including his mother, so, so what) but he's very accepted in the mainstream.
Why is he accepted and OP's are generally not? Because most OP's are out there propagating that they're the only ones with "The Truth."
Why the hostility?
Remember, we're known by our love. Most people don't "sprew", they speak as they believe.
Why the hostility?
Remember, we're known by our love. Most people don't "sprew", they speak as they believe.
Then why would you expect to be accepted in mainstream trinitarian circles when you are the ones believing and teaching that your way is exclusive? And to beat it all you then try to lay off the disunity that causes solely on the trinitarians... Give me a break!
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Then why would you expect to be accepted in mainstream trinitarian circles when you are the ones believing and teaching that your way is exclusive? And to beat it all you then try to lay off the disunity that causes solely on the trinitarians... Give me a break!
I'm not doing any such thing. We must be careful what we lay at the feet of God's children.
Is the oneness doctrine considered a heresay or not?
And is love the primary fruit we should be known by?
I did....I'm not looking for 400 pages of bickering, I'm just looking for a simple explanation. It just sounds weird and cultish, but I don't wanna label before I know what I'm talking about.
Apostolic Identity is a new term for Holiness Standards.
It's more than just standards, it's also doctrinal.
I think it's another term for the Affirmation Statement
but applying it to the membership and not just ministers.
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