Shirley Sherrod Update

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Uk...gag...choke...

Give me a screaming guitar...

And a 57 Chevy?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Racism of any stripe is wrong.God loves all people the same,maybe someday people will figure that out.

Here some of Mrs.Sherrod's comments that most people haven't heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCowzN_K

[Pressing-On]

Sherrod Story False

Plain as day, Ms. Sherrod says that Bobby Hall, a Sherrod relative, was lynched. As she puts it, describing the actions of the 1940s-era Sheriff Claude Screws: "Claude Screws lynched a black man."

This is not true. It did not happen. How do we know this?

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/0...od-story-false

Why wouldn't that be called lynching?

[OilCityCajun]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

...Why wouldn't that be called lynching?

Because a lynching, by definition, is a hanging. Had she said some thing like, "Sherrif Screws, in effect, lynched..." or "...virtually lynched...", "...practically lynched..." or some such, she would have been accurate. I dont think her failure to include any such modifier makes her statement false...only poorly worded.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by OilCityCajun

Because a lynching, by definition, is a hanging. Had she said some thing like, "Sherrif Screws, in effect, lynched..." or "...virtually lynched...", "...practically lynched..." or some such, she would have been accurate. I dont think her failure to include any such modifier makes her statement false...only poorly worded.

That is untrue.

"To punish (a person) without legal process or authority, especially by hanging, for a perceived offense or as an act of bigotry."

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lynching

"To inflict punishment upon, especially death, without the forms of law, as when a mob captures and hangs a suspected person. "

http://www.dictionary.net/lynch

": to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal sanction"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lynch

After reading the what the Supreme Court stated as the facts of the case, there is no justifiable ground to not call this a lynching:

"The arrest was made late at night at Hall's home on a warrant charging Hall with theft of a tire. Hall, a young negro about thirty years of age, was handcuffed and taken by car to the courthouse. As Hall alighted from the car at the courthouse square, the three petitioners began beating him with their fists and with a solid-bar blackjack about eight inches long and weighing two pounds. They claimed Hall had reached for a gun and had used insulting language as he alighted from the car. But after Hall, still handcuffed, had been knocked to the ground, they continued to beat him from fifteen to thirty minutes until he was unconscious. Hall was then dragged feet first through the courthouse yard into the jail and thrown upon the floor, dying. An ambulance was called, and Hall was removed to a hospital, where he died within the hour and without regaining consciousness. There was evidence that Screws held a grudge against Hall, and had threatened to "get" him."

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by OilCityCajun

Because a lynching, by definition, is a hanging. Had she said some thing like, "Sherrif Screws, in effect, lynched..." or "...virtually lynched...", "...practically lynched..." or some such, she would have been accurate. I dont think her failure to include any such modifier makes her statement false...only poorly worded.

I think it was the same thing as a lynching to her. The man was murdered.

I also don't understand how he could have reached for his gun while being handcuffed.

[OilCityCajun]

I stand corrected on the definition. However, I did say I did not think she was dishonest in calling it a lynching.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by OilCityCajun

I stand corrected on the definition. However, I did say I did not think she was dishonest in calling it a lynching.

Right. I did catch that you said she was not actually dishonest in defining that as a lynching. I agree! For the climate of that day - 1945 - I would also call that a lynching.

[pelathais]

This whole saga just seems to reflect the lack of leadership within the current admin. The this woman was "fired," the justification at the time was given as being something like, "We don't want Fox News playing that clip over and over..."

This hardly seems to be the way a federal employee ought to be judged and treated by the federal government. It's just been one knee jerk reaction after the other from Axelrod and Rahmbo and their minions.

To compound the irony, Fox News has been one of this woman's loudest defenders. Washington is just filled with a lot of doofs. IMHO. No one's career should be held hostage to the pinheads that rule according to whatever whim they get from Youtube. For crying out loud, you're in a position with responsibility. Stop operating the machinations of government with a mouse click and use your head for a change.

[Jermyn Davidson]

If the Obama Administration didn't fire her, there would be those who would have continued to take her remarks out of the context of her life's experiences.

They would have continued to lump her and Obama as racist.

Then you've got what Michelle (Robinson) Obama wrote a long time ago and that group picture she took with f-khan's wife (and other prominent non-racist black women but that FACT is seemingly ALWAYS left out when describing the picture.)

The Obama's are not racist, but there have been some on the "right" who have tried very hard to paint them as such.


Bottom line: public officials MUST choose their words wisely in public.


She's not a racist. She is a victim of her own making though, in this situation.


Honestly, Vilsack acted with the best in mind for the Obama Administration.


I liked how GWB and the people around him were hardly reactionary in their actions-- when it came to staff.