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Old 05-19-2010, 10:23 AM
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Re: The end is at hand!!!!!!!!!

The Holy Ghost was given to us, just as it was the Apostles. To enpower, to lead and
guide into all truth. The Spirit (GOD,Deity) could be in all. Jesus walked with those
chosen disciples (ignorant and unlearned men) and taught them for 3 1/2 yrs. He was
crucified, rose again after three days. He appeared to Mary Magdalene and to His disci-
ples at different times. He also appeared to other witnesses and just prior to his ascen-
ion, taught His chosen disciples some more, opened their understanding that they
might understand the scriptures. Sent them to Jerusalem to wait for the Promise of the
Father. The Holy Ghost or Spirit of GOD! Jesus told the disciples that He was WITH them
but was going to be IN them. That same Jesus whom they saw leaving was going to be
in them! How! THE SPIRIT (GOD) IS A SPIRIT! TO wit (know) that GOD WAS IN CHRIST,
reconciling the world unto HIMSELF! YES, JESUS went up, that the SPIRIT could come
down. That God might be all IN all.

The body (humanity) of the Son became hungry and ate. In the storm, the body of the
Son became tired and fell asleep in the boat. But when there arose a storm, the Spirt of
the Father inside the body, SPOKE PEACE to the storm. The elements had heard that
VOICE before. "Let there be light, and there was light". Now HE speaks, "Peace be still",
and the storm ceases. All is calm! All is bright! OH, HOW HE longs to bring peace to His
people today! Just as HE sat up in the Mount and wept over Jerusalem. Now HE is IN HIS
people and we carry the Spirit. Does HE weep through us as we take the Gospel to our
cities. Or does HE weep because many did not, as Jerusalem, the day of their visitation.
Approx 40 yrs later, Jerusalem was sieged and leveled to the ground. Missionaries have
gone and people and churches have sacrificed to send them to the foreign lands to tell
the good news of Jesus Chrsit. In countries where the gospel has gone, earthquakes
have almost destroyed whole cities.

There was a time in the early 1930's that "JESUS" passed by the little town my late
paternal grandparents lived. He came in an old white-haired preacher, preaching on
the street corner of their tiny town. I am so glad my grandmother heard, got stirred
up enough to search the Word one more time. To see if it be true or not. For five gene-
rations of our family, this message has been preached and obeyed. The Word of the
LORD will endure FOREVER! For the most part, the approximate 1500 people that
came from miles around to hear this humble man, never knew their day of visitation.
The days that Jesus was passing by. They didn't recognize Him in that body of clay
that the messge was stored in! But if they had only listened to the words he spoke.
Jesus told His disciples that the words He spoke, "they are spirit and they are life".
Jesus Christ the same, yesterday and today and forever!

Those in Jesus' day didn't know who He was. They thought he was "is this
not Joseph, the carpenter's son. Is this not Mary's son! If they had known
who He was, they would not have killed the King of Glory!


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Old 05-19-2010, 10:30 AM
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As a life-long Dispensationalist I became an Idealist. Was that the "right thing" in your Preterist eyes?
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:31 AM
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The Holy Ghost was given to us, just as it was the Apostles. To enpower, to lead and
guide into all truth. The Spirit (GOD,Deity) could be in all. Jesus walked with those
chosen disciples (ignorant and unlearned men) and taught them for 3 1/2 yrs. He was
crucified, rose again after three days. He appeared to Mary Magdalene and to His disci-
ples at different times. He also appeared to other witnesses and just prior to his ascen-
ion, taught His chosen disciples some more, opened their understanding that they
might understand the scriptures. Sent them to Jerusalem to wait for the Promise of the
Father. The Holy Ghost or Spirit of GOD! Jesus told the disciples that He was WITH them
but was going to be IN them. That same Jesus whom they saw leaving was going to be
in them! How! THE SPIRIT (GOD) IS A SPIRIT! TO wit (know) that GOD WAS IN CHRIST,
reconciling the world unto HIMSELF! YES, JESUS went up, that the SPIRIT could come
down. That God might be all IN all.

The body (humanity) of the Son became hungry and ate. In the storm, the body of the
Son became tired and fell asleep in the boat. But when there arose a storm, the Spirt of
the Father inside the body, SPOKE PEACE to the storm. The elements had heard that
VOICE before. "Let there be light, and there was light". Now HE speaks, "Peace be still",
and the storm ceases. All is calm! All is bright! OH, HOW HE longs to bring peace to His
people today! Just as HE sat up in the Mount and wept over Jerusalem. Now HE is IN HIS
people and we carry the Spirit. Does HE weep through us as we take the Gospel to our
cities. Or does HE weep because many did not, as Jerusalem, the day of their visitation.
Approx 40 yrs later, Jerusalem was sieged and leveled to the ground. Missionaries have
gone and people and churches have sacrificed to send them to the foreign lands to tell
the good news of Jesus Chrsit. In countries where the gospel has gone, earthquakes
have almost destroyed whole cities.

There was a time in the early 1930's that "JESUS" passed by the little town my late
paternal grandparents lived. He came in an old white-haired preacher, preaching on
the street corner of their tiny town. I am so glad my grandmother heard, got stirred
up enough to search the Word one more time. To see if it be true or not. For five gene-
rations of our family, this message has been preached and obeyed. The Word of the
LORD will endure FOREVER! For the most part, the approximate 1500 people that
came from miles around to hear this humble man, never knew their day of visitation.
The days that Jesus was passing by. They didn't recognize Him in that body of clay
that the messge was stored in! But if they had only listened to the words he spoke.
Jesus told His disciples that the words He spoke, "they are spirit and they are life".
Jesus Christ the same, yesterday and today and forever!

Those in Jesus' day didn't know who He was. They thought he was "is this
not Joseph, the carpenter's son. Is this not Mary's son! If they had known
who He was, they would not have killed the King of Glory!


Falla39
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:49 AM
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As a life-long Dispensationalist I became an Idealist. Was that the "right thing" in your Preterist eyes?
What's a Preterist? What's an Idealist? The label does not always translate the same from believer to believer. I believe in being a 'Bibleist.' If a person follows what's written in the Word, then they are doing the "right thing."
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:26 AM
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There it is the fulfilment of prophecy. Men teaching the words of the Apostles do not apply to us Christians. So the words of the Apostles for the end time have long since passed away. For 1900 years their words have been useless just taking up space in our much more enlightened age. Sure why do we need the words of the Apostles anyway? Men are wise. They understand scripture better than those who wrote it! Ah it all makes sense now.

Every man does what is right in his own eyes.
Brother, "at hand" means "at hand". Not thousands of years later.

Also, the overall greater point is that the perpetrators of the cross, whom John 1 distinctly said were Christ's own people and did not receive Him, were dealt with in their generation. It's part of what got us to the KINGDOM timeframe we now stand in as the church. This is significant because it puts emphasis upon the work of the cross and what was involved in that work. With all the awesome and powerful feats the cross accomplished, it likewise brought severe judgment to those who refused to accept Him, being Christ's actual bride before the cross, Jerusalem (Ezekiel 16). The greatest thing that ever occurred for man's hope was the cross. But it also brought the worst judgment ever to occur or that ever had occurred, as far as God is concerned, in the same generation. So, as much as the church went about teaching and preaching awesome things about the cross throughout the New Testament, things were gearing up for God to mete judgment forth in that generation of 40 years after the cross occurred, giving that space of time for people to repent. The apostles knew this and wrote of it quite a lot! THAT is what you might call wasted ministry, but it was very significant ministry that shouts a warning to every generation to likewise ensure we all heed the truth and not reject it, lest we fall under condemnation. How is that a wasted ministry? We read in Acts where Annanias and Sapphira were judged and see it as a note of warning to us today!

But more practically, these events that transpired show how the KINGDOM was established in the first century generation since the cross. Old Jerusalem went down and New Jerusalem rose forth. Old temple went down and new temple was established. It was as though Saul's kingdom of fleshly Pharisaism Judaism was going down while the Davidic Kingdom was rising up. The elder doubters of the Exodus were dying off while th younger believers were ready to enter true Kingdom realms in an identical timeframe of 40 years!.

And it is no more wasted ministry than the texts of the events of Jesus' life as history in the gospels is wasted simply because they were accounts that occurred and ended. Acts 2 is a history account, too. Just because the day of Pentecost came and went, are we to conclude it is pointless history since that day is not yet forthcoming? Is the account of the cross a wasted historical lesson and useless to us today because the event of the cross is fulfilled and not forthcoming? Of course not. But yet that is similar to what you are saying. Odd logic, bro.
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There it is the fulfilment of prophecy. Men teaching the words of the Apostles do not apply to us Christians. So the words of the Apostles for the end time have long since passed away. For 1900 years their words have been useless just taking up space in our much more enlightened age. Sure why do we need the words of the Apostles anyway? Men are wise. They understand scripture better than those who wrote it! Ah it all makes sense now.

Every man does what is right in his own eyes.
What does this mean:

But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
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But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
It means the ending is near, close at reach. Not 2,000 years and climbing.
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Gen 27:41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are AT HAND; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

Deu 15:9 Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is AT HAND; and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought; and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee.

1Sa 9:8 "And the servant answered Saul again, and said, Behold, I have here AT HAND the fourth part of a shekel of silver: that will I give to the man of God, to tell us our way."

Jer 23:23 Am I a God AT HAND, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?


At hand means not afar off.

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Gen 27:41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are AT HAND; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

Deu 15:9 Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is AT HAND; and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought; and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee.

1Sa 9:8 "And the servant answered Saul again, and said, Behold, I have here AT HAND the fourth part of a shekel of silver: that will I give to the man of God, to tell us our way."

Jer 23:23 Am I a God AT HAND, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?


At hand means not afar off.

In Jesus name

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So do you have any idea what "Not afar off" means? One year? Five years? A hundred years?
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