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04-26-2007, 09:38 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
JT you're lost ... you hate preachers.
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I do not hate preachers...I hate the judgmental spirit that some have. I know you feel the same way. I am preacher myself, but I am far from judgmental.
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04-26-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I do not hate preachers...I hate the judgmental spirit that some have. I know you feel the same way. I am preacher myself, but I am far from judgmental.
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If you didn't hate them you wouldn't criticize them.
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04-26-2007, 09:44 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Island
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
If you didn't hate them you wouldn't criticize them.
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I really do not hate them. I have had known some great ones. But there are some bad ones out there. Some of those bad ones make the good ones look horrible sometimes.
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04-26-2007, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????
Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?
Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???
Not going to church is not a problem????
Hating preachers is not a problem??????
Abandoning all standards is not a problem????
Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????
The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????
WHAT SAY YOU???????????????????????????????
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Ooh! Ooh! I can answer this one.
1. Believe that they can earn their salvation through works.
2. Scatter the flock instead of gather it.
3. Consistently foment a culture of fear in the church.
4. Replace the leading of the Holy Ghost with a long list of rules that supposedly have saving power.
5. Live with a sense of pride in your own professed and supposed "goodness".
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04-26-2007, 09:47 AM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????
Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?
Depends on what's meant by "fellowshipping." I don't believe we can't have friends or be friendly to them without constantly bashing them with the Louisville Slugger of Godhead.
Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???
Where'd you get a silly idea like that? Homosexuality is a sin. As is lying, adultery, murder, etc.
Not going to church is not a problem????
You should go to a local church. You should get as involved in a local church as you can. While it won't save you, it will help your walk with God to be around people of like faith. Just don't spend so much time at the church that you forget to evangelize outside of it.
Hating preachers is not a problem??????
I don't ~hate~ the preachers . . . I just hate their sins.
Abandoning all standards is not a problem????
If you mean abandoning non-Biblical, mostly personal standards that most can't seem to agree on anyway (tv, sleeve length, dress shirt colors, rings, watches, jewelry, makeup, pants, etc) . . . no problem. If you mean Biblical standards, then no.
Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????
The only one's who could be lying on the AS would be ~PREACHERS!~ I'm not a licensed minister, so this doesn't relate to me, nor probably over half of the others here on AFF.
The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????
Again, where'd you get a silly idea like that? That's about the dumbest statement I've read on here.
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04-26-2007, 09:48 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Island
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Ooh! Ooh! I can answer this one.
1. Believe that they can earn their salvation through works.
2. Scatter the flock instead of gather it.
3. Consistently foment a culture of fear in the church.
4. Replace the leading of the Holy Ghost with a long list of rules that supposedly have saving power.
5. Live with a sense of pride in your own professed and supposed "goodness".
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GOOD POST!
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04-26-2007, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Epley
What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????
Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?
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Jesus was criticized for fellowshipping and eating with publicans and sinners...was Jesus lost?
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Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???
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The practice of homosexual behaviors is a sin, but showing grace and mercy to a sinner is not...Jesus does it on a daily basis...is Jesus lost?
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Not going to church is not a problem????
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Many people are not able to go to church, and back in Bible days they met from house to house, Jesus never Pastored a church...is he lost?
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Hating preachers is not a problem??????
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Hating anyone is a sin. Not allowing or condoning preachers who manipulate and control others for their own agenda and not that of Christ is not a sin, and as I recall Paul told those following him to follow him as he followed Christ, and the flip side to that equation is that Paul was saying that if he did not follow Christ, by all means...don't follow him. Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees and religious leaders of his time, is Jesus lost?
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Abandoning all standards is not a problem????
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Abandoning 'standards' that are not Biblical or essential to salvation is not a sin. As I recall Jesus healed on the Sabboth, forgave sins, and did things contrary to religious beliefs/rules/laws of his time, is Jesus lost?
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Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????
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Lying is a sin...this is a problem.
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The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????
WHAT SAY YOU???????????????????????????????
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I say, "This is a ridiculous thread and beneath a man of God to pursue". Since you asked my opinion.
Blessings, Rhoni
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04-26-2007, 10:10 AM
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Some people could make a statue weep
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Ignorance of the Good Book Reaches Biblical Proportions.
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---> Your Lack of Understanding is Your Own Fault <---
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04-26-2007, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: H-Town, Texas
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Originally Posted by Actaeon
Ignorance of the Good Book Reaches Biblical Proportions.
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Thus saith Acteon ....
Please point out any examples of ignorance in this thread.
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04-26-2007, 10:22 AM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Because folks on here think nothing of fellowshipping Trinitarians.
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JESUS FELLOWSHIPPED SINNERS!
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