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Old 05-03-2007, 04:09 PM
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J-Roc, how did you figure out that he was a plagarist?
Well I saw how he got a lot of kudos for his writings from people like Felicity, Coon, and various others and one of them even suggested to go check out the topics he has started...so I went to check them out...read some of the content and got a little suspicious regarding the authencity and so I began to sniff around and saw that his entire post on the thread he started was actually an article authored by John Piper, so I told Felicity the following in the thread where he got all this kudos:


All that glitters is not gold....

I would not be so quick to give him the credit for writing some of the things he posts....here is a post of his that you appreciated and enjoyed....and it was a very good post.


http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=1966

However, Actaeon failed to give proper credits to the author of that article....he customized it a bit but he is not the originator...the author was John Piper and the article and source of his information can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/28mncp

A well written article by Piper made him Actaeon look very wise...

....All that glitters is not gold.


Unless, of course, if Actaeon is John Piper and Josh McDowell at the same time.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:30 PM
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Well I saw how he got a lot of kudos for his writings from people like Felicity, Coon, and various others and one of them even suggested to go check out the topics he has started...so I went to check them out...read some of the content and got a little suspicious regarding the authencity and so I began to sniff around and saw that his entire post on the thread he started was actually an article authored by John Piper, so I told Felicity the following in the thread where he got all this kudos:


All that glitters is not gold....

I would not be so quick to give him the credit for writing some of the things he posts....here is a post of his that you appreciated and enjoyed....and it was a very good post.


http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ead.php?t=1966

However, Actaeon failed to give proper credits to the author of that article....he customized it a bit but he is not the originator...the author was John Piper and the article and source of his information can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/28mncp

A well written article by Piper made him Actaeon look very wise...

....All that glitters is not gold.


Unless, of course, if Actaeon is John Piper and Josh McDowell at the same time.


Excuse me, but I don't recall seeing an author's name on the original post.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:41 PM
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Excuse me, but I don't recall seeing an author's name on the original post.
I think that is J-Roc's point.
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:01 PM
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Actaeon posted this disclaimer on another forum on April 6,2007

I must post a disclaimer:

In 1999 or thereabouts Brother _______ thought it would be a good idea to send out some Bible study material through email to offset the deluge of joke and nonsense emails that seemed to be the norm. He asked if I had any old material that I could contribute since he knew that I had been editor of the _____________ for 10 years and that I wrote as a pastime. I thought his idea was a Good one and said I would see what I could send him. I have stacks of old studies and articles some are authored by me and some by others and some that had no credit listed (most all of these were type printed materials). So I simply ran them through a scanner and sent them to Brother ________ - at first we did not proof them nor format them, they were just sent out typos and scanner errors included. So many of the real old ones are full of typos and have no formating. Brother ____________just emailed them as is to any that wanted them to use as they wished (for thought provokers mainly). So remember when you get a copy of the articles and outlines that they may not be all you wished for.
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:04 PM
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Actaeon posted this disclaimer on another forum.

I must post a disclaimer:

In 1999 or thereabouts Brother _______ thought it would be a good idea to send out some Bible study material through email to offset the deluge of joke and nonsense emails that seemed to be the norm. He asked if I had any old material that I could contribute since he knew that I had been editor of the _____________ for 10 years and that I wrote as a pastime. I thought his idea was a Good one and said I would see what I could send him. I have stacks of old studies and articles some are authored by me and some by others and some that had no credit listed (most all of these were type printed materials). So I simply ran them through a scanner and sent them to Brother ________ - at first we did not proof them nor format them, they were just sent out typos and scanner errors included. So many of the real old ones are full of typos and have no formating. Brother ____________just emailed them as is to any that wanted them to use as they wished (for thought provokers mainly). So remember when you get a copy of the articles and outlines that they may not be all you wished for.
I remember this post from several months (or maybe a year or so) ago... is this the same article that was posted at that time, or is it a different article?
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:07 PM
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I remember this post from several months (or maybe a year or so) ago... is this the same article that was posted at that time, or is it a different article?


Yes a similar disclaimer was posted on nFCF way back then.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:09 PM
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The new tolerance is an insidious danger which may damage communication between you and God. It is not enough today to “live and let live.” It is not enough to assert another person’s right to believe or say what he thinks is right. In order to be truly tolerant, you must now give your approval, endorsement and sincere support to their beliefs … AND BEHAVIORS!

THIS UNDERMINES THE VERY ESSENCE AND MEANING OF ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Did you know that there is a growing consensus of thought in our society that it is improper to condemn the Chinese leaders who massacred dissenting students in Tiananmen Square, the Nazis who systematically butchered six million Jews, or those countries that allow child slave labor or the killing of unwanted children? They feel it is not anyone’s place to make such a “moral judgment.”

In contrast to traditional tolerance, which asserts that everyone has an equal right to believe or say what he THINKS is right, the new tolerance says that what every individual believes or says IS equally right. All values are equal. All lifestyles are equal. All truth claims are equal. BUT … THE LAW OF NON-CONTRADICTION (basic logic) insists that two contradictory ideas cannot both be true.

THE BIBLE MAKES IT CLEAR THAT ALL VALUES, BELIEFS, LIFESTYLES AND TRUTH CLAIMS ARE NOT EQUAL! It teaches that the God of the Bible is the true God (Jeremiah 10:10), that all His words are true (Psalm 119:160), and that if something is not right in GOD’S SIGHT, it is wrong (Deuteronomy 6:18). This is not just the view of Hebrew, Christian or Western culture – it is truth, according to the God who rules over all cultures!

The basic premise of the new tolerance is that there is no difference between who a person is and that person’s beliefs, behavior, culture or lifestyle. Written as an equation, it would look like this: WHAT I AM = WHAT I DO. Therefore, if you express any disagreement with someone’s beliefs, say that their behavior is wrong, or can’t accept their lifestyle, you’re judging and being intolerant of THEM! In other words, if you don’t approve of a person’s lifestyle, you don’t LOVE THE PERSON. But Scripture does not teach that what we do is equal to who we are! When Isaiah wrote, “Your iniquities have separated between you and your God” (Isaiah 59:2), he made a clear distinction between who we are and what we do (our iniquities). What we do is not the same as who we are, for otherwise God could not have separated our sins from us and thrown them into the sea of his forgetfulness! (Micah 7:18-19)

In a society that regards all values, beliefs, lifestyles and truth claims as equally valid, there can be only one universal virtue – TOLERANCE. And if tolerance is the cardinal virtue, then there can be only one evil – INTOLERANCE. That is exactly the attitude we are seeing today!

The common idea is that to be a Christian is to be one who tolerates everything except intolerance therefore, any system that believes in ABSOLUTE TRUTH is by definition guilty of intolerance! You don’t even have to say anything. If you even THINK there is an absolute truth, then you are intolerant, and thus an appropriate object of intolerance! To the modernist, nonagreement is phobia, nonconformity is hate, and conviction is fanaticism.

The spirit of the “new tolerance” has in great measure infiltrated the church of the last days. That is why people have the false ideas that “to tell someone their belief or behavior is wrong is being judgmental.” The Bible contains ABSOLUTE TRUTH! The question is not “what does it mean to me?” but “what does it mean?” and “how do I apply it to me?” The meaning of the Bible is not DECIDED by the reader, but DISCERNED by him!

Paul did say “the servant of the Lord must not strive,” but he also said we must confront “those that oppose themselves … that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil.” The New Testament Church was an intolerant church. ‘Intolerant’ is a scandalous word to use these days, for if there is anything that is in style among our ‘progressive’ churches it is that word ‘tolerance.’ You would think that intolerance was the unpardonable sin. We are majoring as never in all church history on being broad-minded. That we have become so broad we have become also pitifully shallow never seems to disturb us. We must ‘broaden or bust.’ Of course, some experts in tolerance can be amazingly intolerant of those who do not share their broad-mindedness, but that does not disturb them either.

“Tolerance is a virtue of a man without convictions.”

The spirit of tolerance has also corrupted many Christians, who believe “my opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s – I will live for God as I think best.” But the Bible is NOT a “tolerant book”! Others tolerate personal attitudes and sins, thinking “that’s just the way I am – I can’t change.” The spirit of the age says “My sin is not a big deal” but the Word says “You must be delivered!” And that God has ONLY ONE plan of deliverance—Acts 2:38!

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This has been brought on by the NIWS (Nothing is Wrong Syndrome)....Not to be confused with the EIRS (Everything is Right Syndrome)
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