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Re: 1 John 5:7
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I like the literal translations,I do use the Amplified for study as well.
I'm not a big NIV fan but it's ok.
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Re Translating: withh literal, you sacrifice losing the meaning. With paraphrase, you lose the accuracy. NIV is a wonderful blend of the two, as is ESV.
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10-29-2009, 04:41 PM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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Re Translating: withh literal, you sacrifice losing the meaning. With paraphrase, you lose the accuracy. NIV is a wonderful blend of the two, as is ESV.
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An interesting book to read on the subject of discussion is by Bart D. Ehrman
titled, " Misquoting Jesus" , The story behind who changed the bible and why.
He really dives into why some of the scribes changed and or added to the text they were to copy.
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10-29-2009, 07:22 PM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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For a time, then that "quickening" thing happened and I found myself a tayisi in Mongolia fighting for my life.
I hate when that happens.
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10-29-2009, 07:29 PM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Sorry bro, but NIV, KJV and ESV are not paraphrases, they are translations with varying degrees of differences -- some from the school of word-for-word, and some from the school of thought-for-thought.
Good book for choosing what you need: http://www.christianbook.com/Christi...&item_no=78766 |
I think he meant the parenthetical to just refer to the NLT.
There's probably some Union rule that prevented him from making two sentences out of it. 
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10-29-2009, 08:51 PM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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Don't burn me at the stake,but I do own and read a New American Catholic bible.
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how could you!!!!
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10-29-2009, 10:57 PM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Sorry bro, but NIV, KJV and ESV are not paraphrases, they are translations with varying degrees of differences -- some from the school of word-for-word, and some from the school of thought-for-thought.
Good book for choosing what you need: http://www.christianbook.com/Christi...&item_no=78766 |
The NLT is not a paraphrase either. It was intended to be but the group quickly decided to translate early on.
However, it's not a "Literal Translation", mostly....word for word. Literal translations can lose the meaning of the overall focus of a verse, whereas "thought" translations preserve the intent of the writing.
The NLT is, by far, my favorite and has greatly transformed my bible reading, desire, learning, and inspiration.
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10-30-2009, 01:45 AM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Sorry bro, but NIV, KJV and ESV are not paraphrases, they are translations with varying degrees of differences -- some from the school of word-for-word, and some from the school of thought-for-thought.
Good book for choosing what you need: http://www.christianbook.com/Christi...&item_no=78766 |
Jeff, I meant that I use the NLT for my paraphrase. lol
The KJV and ESV are an attempts at formal equivalency while the NLT is dynamic. The NIV is a mixture of both given the passage in question.
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10-30-2009, 01:46 AM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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I think he meant the parenthetical to just refer to the NLT.
There's probably some Union rule that prevented him from making two sentences out of it. |
LOL
Gotta love ya pel. lol
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10-30-2009, 03:47 AM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
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For a time, then that "quickening" thing happened and I found myself a tayisi in Mongolia fighting for my life.
I hate when that happens.
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Ah...there can only be one 
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10-30-2009, 11:44 AM
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Re: 1 John 5:7
I'm still keeping my NASB,and no NASB does not stand for NASTY.
I'm not throwing my Revised Standard bible away either.
Try to come and burn those ,you might get hands laid on you and you might get burned.
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