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[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Do you think that means we can just be nice, merciful people, and expect to be saved while refusing to do what He commands?

Mercy in this life often reaps mercy in this life.

But in the judgment, we are going to be judged by our obedience to the Book.

We receive mercy in this life only? Do you have scriptures for that?

Read the scripture in my sig. We're going to receive mercy if we are merciful in the judgement of our deeds in this body.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

At the end of the day, whatever has happened to you is no excuse for not obeying the WOrd of God.

If I found myself in such a bleak and desolate area that there was nothing around but abusing churches, I would move post haste, regardless.

My salvation is more important to me than anything, and that of my family.

get your hide somewhere where you can go to church.

Excuses won't hold water in the judgment.

For all of us Elder!

Amen.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

We receive mercy in this life only? Do you have scriptures for that?

Read the scripture in my sig. We're going to receive mercy if we are merciful in the judgement of our deeds in this body.

I did not say in this life only.

My point is that showing mercy in this life will not excuse our disobedience in the judgment, which is what you are seemingly implying.

[John Atkinson]

CS is correct. The Word is the yardstick we will be measured and judged by.

[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I did not say in this life only.

My point is that showing mercy in this life will not excuse our disobedience in the judgment, which is what you are seemingly implying.

I didn't say it would EXCUSE our disobedience. We will be judged. I said that God's judgement is mitigated by the mercy we show to others.

[AGAPE]

A good case of repentance would get a lot of "feet" back to church

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

At the end of the day, whatever has happened to you is no excuse for not obeying the WOrd of God.

If I found myself in such a bleak and desolate area that there was nothing around but abusing churches, I would move post haste, regardless.

My salvation is more important to me than anything, and that of my family.

get your hide somewhere where you can go to church.

Excuses won't hold water in the judgment.

Last week I was reflecting on a passage of scripture that always troubled me, but I think I get the main point now.

It's found in I Kings 13, the story of the prophet who delivered a tremendous message from the Lord, there was only one stipulation for this prophet, it couldn't stop and eat anywhere but go straight home.

But he enounters another prophet who intentially lies to him and directs him to eat at his house, the older prophet speaks under the anointing and tells him that God will take his life because of his disobedience.

Now this is what I have come to understand about this passage:

We are always accountable for own walk and life before God, you can't blame your disobedience on a man of God, you are required to hear and obey God for yourself. It won't wash that a man of God convinced you to do something you know to be wrong, decieved you, or abused you (yes God will judge them) but, IF YOU DON"T HEAR AND OBEY GOD FOR YOURSELF YOU WILL BE DESTROYED IN THE END!

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Can any member of the human body live apart from the body for any length of time??????????????? Did not Paul In 1Cor. 12 use the human body as a type of the local church body????? The foot don't like the pitch of the voice that comes from the mouth so he says cut me off and I will stay home and be happy. But in the matter of days the body readjusts but the foot is dead.
Just a thought.

The only problem with this analogy is the JESUS is the head of the body. I like what he says just find. It's those big toes and spleens that SAY they are the head that drive me crazy!

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Michlow

The only problem with this analogy is the JESUS is the head of the body. I like what he says just find. It's those big toes and spleens that SAY they are the head that drive me crazy!

Mich, many times He speaks through His ministry, not just and only firectly.

This is indisputable in the Scripture.

You cannot be perfected or equipped without the ministry.

And since there is no such thing as a permanent victory over the flesh, there is never a time when there is no more need for them until you land in the Glory World.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Mich, many times He speaks through His ministry, not just and only firectly.

This is indisputable in the Scripture.

You cannot be perfected or equipped without the ministry.

And since there is no such thing as a permanent victory over the flesh, there is never a time when there is no more need for them until you land in the Glory World.

Yes, he does speak through others in the body. We are all the ministry. We all need to be perfected and equipped. I am not arguing against the need for accountability or teaching through others. I am disagree with the clergy/laity seperation that is so prevelant in the Apostolic church.