Observations at a Contemporary Baptist Church

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Also interesting is that Dr Walter Martin agreed with Bernard on "Eternal Son" being a bad term.

Better than the expression "eternal sonship"

It is rather annoying for biblical folks to demand use of non biblical vocabulary.

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by Sherri

In our church, we NEVER use either term; they are too divisive.

Absolutely!! Same here.

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Wow- the deception that was cast over you was great then. There are WAY too many Scriptures to even post about the reverance and awe that is supposed to be had over the name of the LORD. The power that is in the name of the LORD is great, and with remission of sins, being told to be preached in Christ's name, to hear that you went and baptized according to the titular formula (which does not understand the Scripture in its fulness) is troubling.

-Bro. Alex

Alex,

I would have been shocked had someone NOT said what you did. But you cannot take away my experience, you cannot take away my salvation, you cannot take away the splendor of the words of Jesus in Matthew 28:19, and you cannot change the three that bear record in heaven.

So is this a heaven/hell issue for you?

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by coadie

Better than the expression "eternal sonship"

It is rather annoying for biblical folks to demand use of non biblical vocabulary.

The imagery I get is standing before the judgment seat of Christ and Jesus saying, "Do you believe in eternal Sonship?"

"Yes sir, I do."

"Sorry son, go to hell and burn forever."

I've watched a bit of the Sabin/Martin thing and, although I would tend to lean Martin's direction theologically, the whole thing is just irritating.

[KWSS1976]

Irreligious here is a little history on Matthew 28:19


http://acharlie.tripod.com/gtrin/mat28_19.html

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Irreligious here is a little history on Matthew 28:19


http://acharlie.tripod.com/gtrin/mat28_19.html

Yeah, that's excellent. That's why, when one says "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit", it is the most dramatic, earth-shattering way of understanding the complete fullness of God's existence and character.

Great article!

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by Irreligious

Alex,

I would have been shocked had someone NOT said what you did. But you cannot take away my experience, you cannot take away my salvation, you cannot take away the splendor of the words of Jesus in Matthew 28:19, and you cannot change the three that bear record in heaven.

So is this a heaven/hell issue for you?

You bet! The gospel is very clear in what needs to take place for the remission of sins to occur.

-Bro. Alex

[Irreligious]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

You bet! The gospel is very clear in what needs to take place for the remission of sins to occur.

-Bro. Alex

I figured as much.

Romans 8:33-34..."Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! HE IS THE ONE who has given us right standing with himself. Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for HE IS THE ONE who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of the highest honor next to God, pleading for us."

So, my dear Alex, God is the one who gave me right standing with himself and CHRIST is the one who died for me.....

Not you. So like I said previously....you can't take away my salvation.

[Aquila]

I know I'm going to get beat up for this one, but it's an honest question. Where does the Bible actually state that a minister of the Gospel has to speak the name of Jesus over a candidate being baptized?

[KWSS1976]

Can't get beat up if ya can't find it..LOL all they said was to get baptised in Jesus name it did not say anyone had to speak it over ya...