Spend, Spend, Spend!!!

[Jermyn Davidson]

As much as the idea of another round of "stimulus" upsets me, the people of the GOP who criticize the idea of it were not swift to criticize the BILLIONS of dollars spent by Haliburton, KBR, CACI and other private agencies-- of course the money they were using was government money....

All of it spent, very little of it traceable.

How soon we forget.



The ONLY way I could possibly support another stimulus package or another bail out program is if the money went more directly to American citizens in the form of tax breaks and/or long term jobs that are created quicly to help bring down the unemployment rate.

No more million dollar projects for under highway tunnels for endangered turtles to use.

No more money for the AIG's of the nation.

[coadie]

Behold the reductio ad absurdam of Keynesianism, oblivious to the fact of trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. The One’s going to kill off those economic flu germs that are hounding us no matter how many shots of cyanide it takes.
“And folks look, AARP knows and the people working here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it. It can’t do it financially.”
“We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.
“Well, people that I say that to say, ‘What are you talking about, you’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, I’m telling you.”Stupid democrats. what is up is down, good is evil, left is right, Saving is bad. where will it end? What were they thinking when they voted for barack and joe?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

As much as the idea of another round of "stimulus" upsets me, the people of the GOP who criticize the idea of it were not swift to criticize the BILLIONS of dollars spent by Haliburton, KBR, CACI and other private agencies-- of course the money they were using was government money....

All of it spent, very little of it traceable.

No more money for the AIG's of the nation.

http://ir.halliburton.com/phoenix.zh...&p=irol-irhome

Halliburton is easily traceable. Just look at the audited financial statements. Actually they make a lot of money in Russia for our shareholders here. Halliburton makes a lot of money in other countries. Pay taxes here. Now when Obama in his last bill added 90 billion for the IMF and struck out congress clause that the IMF had to account for the loans to us, we will flush it down the toilet like U,N. Monies. Large CPA firms have foreign offices to audit financials and meet compliance with sarbanes Oxley. If you have an issue, call their corporate governance committee. Then let me know and i can explain how financial statements are prepared and how they get to an unqualified auditors opinion. Surely you read the 10k filings and proxy statements. Can you explain to me without googling what Sarbanes oxley compliance means? Just remember Fanny and Freddie are not under SOX and the liberals are fighting oversight.
I understand the issues some have with AIG. I also understand mark to market. Where it gets sticky, is AIG's play in credit default swaps.

[coadie]

Bribing congress.

Three House Democratic leaders who were whipping members on the climate change bill gave tens of thousands in campaign cash to party moderates around the time of the 219-212 vote on June 26, according to Federal Election Commission records.

It's impossible to tell if that torrent of cash was an attempt to schmear wavering Democrats -- or just part of the usual cash dump made by leaders on the eve of the June 30 quarterly fundraising deadline.

Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-SC) doled out $28,000 to reps who eventually voted yes on June 24, two days before the big vote -- on a day when House leaders were doing some heavy-duty arm-twisting.

Clyburn recipients who voted for the bill included a who's-who of battleground district Dems: Steve Driehaus, D-OH ($2,000); Martin Heinrich, D-NM ($2,000); Suzanne Kosmas, D-Fla. ($4,000); Betsy Markey, D-Colo. ($2,000); Carol Shea-Porter, D-NH ($2,000), Baron Hill, D-Ind. ($2,000); Alan Grayson, D-Fla. ($2,000); Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa ($2,000); Jim Himes, D-Conn. ($2,000); Mary Jo Kilroy, D-OH ($2,000); Kurt Schrader, D-Ore. ($2,000); Jerry McNerney, D-Calif. ($2,000) and Tom Perriello, D-Va. ($2,000).

On the other hand, Clyburn also gave at least $14,000 to Democrats who voted no despite his pressure: Mike Arcuri, D-NY ($2,000); Marion Berry, D-Ark. ($2,000); Bobby Bright, D-Ala. ($2,000); Chris Carney, D-Penn. ($2,000); Chet Edwards (D-Tx.), Travis Childers , D-Miss. ($2,000); Parker Griffith, D-Ala. ($2,000) and Harry Mitchell, D-NM ($2,000).

The same pattern held true for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who gave $4,000 to yes-voting Ohio Democrat Zack Space and the same amount to no-voting Chris Carney.

House Energy and Commerce Henry Waxman gave at least $16,000 to yes-voters on June, 25, FEC records show.

A Waxman campaign spokesman said the payouts were part"end-of-quarter activity."

Ken Spain, communications director of the National Republican Congressional Committee emails this response:

“If this was a concerted effort by the Democratic leadership to purchase votes for Nancy Pelosi’s national energy tax at the eleventh hour, then it is unconscionable at best and corrupt at worst. The sad fact for those Democrats who were seemingly bought and paid for, is that it will take a lot more money than they received to defend such an atrocious vote.”

Bribery.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by coadie

Behold the reductio ad absurdam of Keynesianism, oblivious to the fact of trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see. The One’s going to kill off those economic flu germs that are hounding us no matter how many shots of cyanide it takes.
“And folks look, AARP knows and the people working here today know, the president knows, and I know, that the status quo is simply not acceptable,” Biden said at the event on Thursday in Alexandria, Va. “It’s totally unacceptable. And it’s completely unsustainable. Even if we wanted to keep it the way we have it. It can’t do it financially.”
“We’re going to go bankrupt as a nation,” Biden said.
“Well, people that I say that to say, ‘What are you talking about, you’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, I’m telling you.”Stupid democrats. what is up is down, good is evil, left is right, Saving is bad. where will it end? What were they thinking when they voted for barack and joe?

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isa 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

Sounds like the country is in trouble.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isa 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

Sounds like the country is in trouble.

Today Obama was stomping his foot and saying Obamascare would not add to the deficit and it looks like it will. 1.6 trillion dollars.
And I will by law be required to pay 75% of my worker insurance and it will include paying for abortions.
Talk about evil.
That scripture sure helps put it in perspective.