Prayer Shawl - Page 3

Hoovie · #21 04-06-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Men covering their hair during prayer was a Jewish custom, correct? So why did Paul say it was a shame?

You think that after the resurrection of Jesus, that's when it became a shame? But there were many other Jewish customs that continued, right, that Paul didn't think were necessary, but didn't call a shame?

I Cor. 11 just seems to jump out there with no precedent, it just confuses me. I'm sure the people he was writing to understood his point, but I'm still not quite understanding where that passage had other witness in scripture.

Perhaps not so many Jewish customs continued... Paul had strong words for those who refused to see Messiah revealed.

hadassah · #22 04-06-2009, 06:20 PM

speaking of Paul. How is it that he became preminant over the other Apostles that actually were chosen by Jesus. They saw Him in the flesh. Walked with Him 3 1/2 years. Saw Him crucified and resurrected. Jesus commisioned them to spread the gospel message. When Matthias was chosen to replace Judas, it was required that he had seen personally, the Messiah. Yet, they seemed to have faded into the background.

Steve Epley · #23 04-06-2009, 06:29 PM

The answer to the deep question is very simple. The covering in 1Cor.11 was hair and not a manmade veil.

firefilled66 · #24 04-06-2009, 06:30 PM

I think it's a great idea!! Coming from a jewish background I can tell you that when you have the tallit up and around you feel a sense of the covering of the Lord. It helps one's focus in prayer. Bless you sister and if you decide you want to sell them let me know. Praise the Lord!!!!

hadassah · #25 04-06-2009, 06:46 PM

Its a little unclear about the covering in the first part of that chapter because it says when a woman prays or prophesies she should cover her head. If that part is also refering to her hair , then what does she do with her hair when she is not praying or prophesying. That is why I began to see that maybe it really was a cloth covering.I was in a manna-fest one year in an apostolic oneness church. While I was praying, I felt the strongest urge to cover my head while praying. We were there for a week of fasting and prayer and there were many preachers from all over the country. I covered my head and when I did my prayer language exploded. Later, I searched everything I could to find out what it meant. I really looked at what 1cor. said and that is when I began to wonder if it really did mean a shawl on my head. I tried again at home and my prayer life was stronger. I asked God to give this to other women if it is really what He wants. I fleeced Him and received a powerful answer. In my home church about a year later, a woman came to prayer wearing a head covering and I could see an aura around her. Her tongues were powerful. She was not a stranger to me, I knew who she was. Unfortunately, we were told not to do this, so we stopped. I tried to continue it at home but finally decided that the leadership was responsible for me and gave it up. My point is, that there really is a sense of deep protection wearing that covering . When I fleeced God I felt a burning fire cover me from head to toe. I knew it pleased Him. Women used to always wear hats to church, I dont know when they stopped.

Digging4Truth · #26 04-06-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by firefilled66

I think it's a great idea!! Coming from a jewish background I can tell you that when you have the tallit up and around you feel a sense of the covering of the Lord. It helps one's focus in prayer. Bless you sister and if you decide you want to sell them let me know. Praise the Lord!!!!

Do you think it is a sense of the covering of the Lord or might it be a warm sense of tradition?

firefilled66 · #27 04-06-2009, 07:13 PM

Perhaps it is a bit of both but you know I am sure Jesus wore one as did the apostles when they were praying. So I don't see any harm in it.

Digging4Truth · #28 04-06-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by firefilled66

Perhaps it is a bit of both but you know I am sure Jesus wore one as did the apostles when they were praying. So I don't see any harm in it.

I would imagine that they also offered animal sacrifices at the temple as well.

How do you feel the use of such a covering would relate to what Paul said on the subject.

hadassah · #29 04-06-2009, 07:28 PM

I dont believe in traditions. I am well able to tell when the anointing of God falls on me and no I was not having a hot flash. I think Martin Luther could well have made some errors in translation about a lot of things. I also do not see the harm of it.

jaxfam6 · #30 04-06-2009, 07:57 PM

if the covering of a woman is her long hair than why is not the uncovered part for man his short hair? If we are going to apply the covering to anything a man puts on his head other than his short hair then we have to do the same for women and we now need a covering on our ladies rather than it just being their long hair.
I see no problem with the prayer shawl. I find it to be a custom and not a law that they wear it. I also believe that we no longer need any of that to get into the presence of God. I do feel however that if a person uses one then that is between them and God. If they feel better in prayer for using it then go for it.