You found your spouse looking at porn..again...

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

Get rid of the computer.
.

Or at least a really secure filter, that can't be password-overriden.

[*AQuietPlace*]

I'm not sure how I feel about whether or not porn is fornication, but I know it's extremely destructive and needs to be dealt with. I've had friends whose lives were extremely negatively impacted because of porn.

(but if it's not fornication, then why is it sin? <thinking out loud> )

I wouldn't just ignore the situation, I'd do something.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

Get rid of the computer.

Seriously.

Replace it with prayer, Bible reading and smokin' hot smooches.

That is probably the very best response a lady in said situation could do, ravish him. Pictures are no substitue for "smokin' hot smooches" and the things that go with them!!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

A succinct paraphrase of Pro 5:15-19

(you're talking about smooching your wife, right?)

Woe, baby, now you're talking!!
Proverbs 5:15-20:

Drink water from your own cistern

and running water from your own well.

5:16 Should your springs be dispersed outside,

your streams of water in the wide plazas?

5:17 Let them be for yourself alone,

and not for strangers with you.

5:18 May your fountain be blessed,

and may you rejoice in your young wife –

5:19 a loving doe, a graceful deer;

may her breasts satisfy you at all times,

may you be captivated by her love always.5:20 But why should you be captivated, my son, by an adulteress,

and embrace the bosom of a different woman?

[tstew]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I'm not sure how I feel about whether or not porn is fornication, but I know it's extremely destructive and needs to be dealt with. I've had friends whose lives were extremely negatively impacted because of porn.

(but if it's not fornication, then why is it sin? <thinking out loud> )

I wouldn't just ignore the situation, I'd do something.

Not every sin is fornication. It can absolutely be a sin without being fornication.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by tstew

Not every sin is fornication. It can absolutely be a sin without being fornication.

But what makes it a sin if it's not lusting?

[*AQuietPlace*]

It can be partially true that a woman can help by being 'ravishing'.... that is often part of the problem - a lack of sizzle between husband and wife. BUT, it's also not fair to place that burden on a woman's shoulders. A lot of men struggle with porn and it has NOTHING to do with any lack on their wife's part.

I think Crakjack said it well in one of his posts above..... "Usually there is baggage on both sides to make it difficult, this does not make the other spouse responsible". Personal responsibility is always vital, no matter what provocation there is, if any.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

It can be partially true that a woman can help by being 'ravishing'.... that is often part of the problem - a lack of sizzle between husband and wife. BUT, it's also not fair to place that burden on a woman's shoulders. A lot of men struggle with porn and it has NOTHING to do with any lack on their wife's part.

I think Crakjack said it well in one of his posts above..... "Usually there is baggage on both sides to make it difficult, this does not make the other spouse responsible". Personal responsibility is always vital, no matter what provocation there is, if any.

I like what you say here AQP. It is very hard for a woman to be ravishing when her husband is looking at porn! In a way, this seems like saying if a woman just gives her husband what he wants in the bedroom, he won't do such a thing. I think it goes way deeper than that. That may not be what was meant but it can make a woman feel more like a nursemaid in the bedroom than a lover.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by ILG

I like what you say here AQP. It is very hard for a woman to be ravishing when her husband is looking at porn! In a way, this seems like saying if a woman just gives her husband what he wants in the bedroom, he won't do such a thing. I think it goes way deeper than that. That may not be what was meant but it can make a woman feel more like a nursemaid in the bedroom than a lover.

I have known women who were CRUSHED by their husband's addiction to porn. They blamed themselves, felt like there was something wrong with them, they weren't *enough*. It is absolutely DEVASTATING for the self-esteem.

[tstew]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

But what makes it a sin if it's not lusting?

That's my point. Lust in and of itself can be a sin. The sin of fornication is seperate to me. Once again I say that lust is to fornication what covetousness is to theft. That's just my opinion. Fornication in the sense that we understand it is a very exact sin. I don't believe that one who has seen pornograph, while doing wrong, is no longer a virgin.