Will the group that gets the building have to pay anything to the other group based on their investment in the church over the years?
Well the vote to disaffiliate was passed. Those of us myself included that wished to stay in the UPC will have to start from scratch again. Some of the people that were founding members and helped build the church are forced to leave from the church they have labored in for so long. The group that kept the church is not going to give us anything for all of our time and investment that we have put in the church. The church is now left with no ushers, hostesses, lost 5 Sunday School teachers, lost the prayer leaders, and has lost the entire Spanish Ministry. Please continue to pray for both parties no matter which side you were both parties have a lot of fixing up to do. Pray that we will find a place to worship.
I hate this kind of thing, and I think the enemy sits back and laughs whenever any church splits. We are independent, but when we left UPC, we didn't lose anyone. It was just God's timing for us. We were very fortunate though, according to lots of stories I've heard.
I hate this kind of thing, and I think the enemy sits back and laughs whenever any church splits. We are independent, but when we left UPC, we didn't lose anyone. It was just God's timing for us. We were very fortunate though, according to lots of stories I've heard.
You are very fortunate indeed. It wasn't just a matter of living the organization, the church only disaffiliated to accommodate the pastor who has lost his license. His license was revoked for good reason, he began to teach a completely different doctrine, that is so far away from acts 2:38 and the oneness of God we have no choice but to leave, we can't stay and hear false doctrine.
Well the vote to disaffiliate was passed. Those of us myself included that wished to stay in the UPC will have to start from scratch again. Some of the people that were founding members and helped build the church are forced to leave from the church they have labored in for so long. The group that kept the church is not going to give us anything for all of our time and investment that we have put in the church. The church is now left with no ushers, hostesses, lost 5 Sunday School teachers, lost the prayer leaders, and has lost the entire Spanish Ministry. Please continue to pray for both parties no matter which side you were both parties have a lot of fixing up to do. Pray that we will find a place to worship.
I know this won't ease your pain, but the church isn't a building its made up of people. You will survive and thrive!!!
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Please pray for India
My personal mission is to BRING people into a right relationship with God, GROW them up to maturity and SEND them back into the world to minister.
Thank You Pastor Keith for your encouraging words, they do help ease the pain. We are the church and we will survive and thrive! Praise God
Praying for yoiu Pentecostalguy. Ive been down that road myself and it is a bitter thing.
The key is to not let that bitterness get in you. Talk to your people about being careful in your comunity. the folks you want to win to the Lord dont need to be turned off to our message because the messangers are having internal strife. these things can ruin a community.
But God is able to raise you back up.
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Well the vote to disaffiliate was passed. Those of us myself included that wished to stay in the UPC will have to start from scratch again. Some of the people that were founding members and helped build the church are forced to leave from the church they have labored in for so long. The group that kept the church is not going to give us anything for all of our time and investment that we have put in the church. The church is now left with no ushers, hostesses, lost 5 Sunday School teachers, lost the prayer leaders, and has lost the entire Spanish Ministry. Please continue to pray for both parties no matter which side you were both parties have a lot of fixing up to do. Pray that we will find a place to worship.
God knows what he is doing and he has a plan in all of this. Our church split a year and a half ago and I can tell you that I know it was God who worked good out of what seemed bad. I hadn't been gone longer than a couple of months when I realized there was a weight off my shoulders and I felt freedom in Christ that I didn't even know existed.
Of course we were the ones who left too but we left the UPC not the other way around.
Well the vote to disaffiliate was passed. Those of us myself included that wished to stay in the UPC will have to start from scratch again. Some of the people that were founding members and helped build the church are forced to leave from the church they have labored in for so long. The group that kept the church is not going to give us anything for all of our time and investment that we have put in the church. The church is now left with no ushers, hostesses, lost 5 Sunday School teachers, lost the prayer leaders, and has lost the entire Spanish Ministry. Please continue to pray for both parties no matter which side you were both parties have a lot of fixing up to do. Pray that we will find a place to worship.
If that were taken to court, the group that keeps the building may have to reimburse those who have invested time and money over the years. It would be like a "buyout" by those who keep the property.
Here in the Cincinnati area, Bro. F.E. Curts took over a split church in 1925. That church became ALJC then UPC with the merger. It had a split in 1945 and the split group was UMC than later ALJC. Then another split in the UPC church 1968 when there was a disagreement between Bro. Curts and he brought in a new assistant pastor (Bro. Buller). When that happened, the one who had been assistant pastor (Bro. Paslay) left with a group and established another UPC church. Later the ALJC church had a split and a UPC church was formed in another nearby city. Then later the ALJC church became UPC with a UPC pastor. So, we now have several UPC churches in the area all as the result of splits. My wife says that's the only way Apostolic churches grow and develop --by splitting, but that is not 100 percent true.
Thank you all for praying for all of us. I greatly appreciate it, I can not express to you my gratitude and the blessings it gives me just to know that are people that are praying for us as we struggle through this. I have recieved word that the district is going to try help us fincancially and try to get us a building to meet in there is about 85 of us. So please continue to pray for us.
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