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01-10-2009, 01:45 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
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Originally Posted by ChTatum
We used to play and sing "Lean On Me".
Haven't done it in years.
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I liked that song.
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01-10-2009, 01:45 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
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Originally Posted by Kings Kid
This morning I was reading this blog on wordpress and the guy was going on about how this guy was drawn to there church because of the song that they were playing. How do you feel about a church using secular music to draw new converts.
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Soooooo? What was the song?
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01-10-2009, 02:00 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
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Originally Posted by Kings Kid
This morning I was reading this blog on wordpress and the guy was going on about how this guy was drawn to there church because of the song that they were playing. How do you feel about a church using secular music to draw new converts.
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I'd say that it better be God that told them to use it.
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01-10-2009, 04:46 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You know people don't often just walk into Church for no reason. 1) They are usually invited or inticed somehow. The purpose is to get them to a place where the preaching of the word can have an effect on them.
And 2) what is "false advertisement"? What does playing a secular song have to do with advertisement?
People don't often "seek Jesus"....because often they don't have a clue that it is Jesus they are seeking for...until you tell them
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1) True, but they would never come (in theory) unless they had at least an interest in Christ. The Christ of the Bible teaches us a degree of separation that should make church musicians uncomfortable with playing music in church that does not distinctly glorify God.
2) Say a sinner becomes converted. Wouldn't a sinner be given the false impression they could continue listening to whatever it was they used to listen to, watching whatever it was they used to watch, before they got saved?
What are we saved from if the world can't even plainly realize the difference in atmosphere once they walk into the doors of our church?
True the Church is comprised of fallen humanity-- but there should be some sense of holiness about us and that holiness should be clearly apparent at church.
I don't think sinners expect to come to church to hear the music of the non -Christian advertised as holy.
This is a clear example of Christians becoming worldly.
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01-10-2009, 04:50 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
Is there any thing related to ministering to the spiritual needs of the Christian or evangelizing the dying soul of the sinner in playing non-Christ centered music in church?
Am I the only one that sees how terrible it is to entertain this idea as acceptable?
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01-10-2009, 04:56 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
Would this work ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6xscyvd944
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01-10-2009, 05:00 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
How about this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTebgVrHEVM
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01-10-2009, 05:11 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
To answer the question broadly, the issue is the content, not the genre.
The church should be the place where folks are encouraged to become as spiritual (Christ-centered) as possible.
Not that the "Piano Man" is sinful as a song, it just does nothing to bring glory to Christ.
So who is it bringing glory to?
Why should our worship be divided in the place dedicated to God's Glory?
Is there anything sacred?
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01-10-2009, 05:12 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
How about this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGzjLXhOSjw
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01-10-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: secular music being used in church services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUnvF9PPwXc
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