What is your greatest ability?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

LOL.... wanna come help me organize my house when I get one?!?! LOL

I am soooooooo not organized lately!

I'll help and instruct you exactly where to put everything and how to put it...I'll lead and delegate!

Blessings, Rhoni

[whollyHis]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I dont think you are bitter at all....

Now let me tell you the side of that little nuclei that are doing everything. Friend, I am in that group in my church. You know what? When we get done cleaning up after the rest of the church came, enjoyed, then left. we sit there TIERD wondering why those enjoyers didnt pitch in. The fact is, that small group that is doing everything arent doing it because they dont want you to have fun. They are doing it, because you arent.

Dont blame me for getting to church early to get things set up, pray and get ready for the day. Dont blame me for spending hours each week prepairing to teach a sunday school lesson. Blame yourself for not telling the pastor you need a job. Blame yourself for letting someone else clean the bathrooms.

the reason that small group of people are the "inner circle" is because they are the ones the Pastor KNOWS will get the job done. If you arent in that group, there is a better than zero chance, you havent joined in, showed up, stayed untill the lights got turned out.

You didnt go to the Pastor and ASK if you could cut the grass, teach a class or help with a dinner.

well I just dumped on you. Im sorry. make yourself available and before long, you will be longing for a pew and wondering why those other folk are just sitting there enjoying when you are working.

Whoa, Nellie...this isn't about ME. I have cleaned that entire church, alonbe, for four years...and mowed the five acres it sits on...don't go there with me.
I have no interest in doing ANYTHING. I am talking about others that have cried and told me of their frustrated desire to be used for the Kingdom...they HAVE asked to be put to work...they HAVE asked for sunday school classes...

I get sooo tired of martyr attitudes..."Poor me...no one else will do this- guess I'll have to...*sigh*" This is why I didn't want to get involved in this topic...sore spot with sooo many...

Carry on...I'll observe from afar...*smile*

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by whollyHis

Whoa, Nellie...this isn't about ME. I have cleaned that entire church, alonbe, for four years...and mowed the five acres it sits on...don't go there with me.
I have no interest in doing ANYTHING. I am talking about others that have cried and told me of their frustrated desire to be used for the Kingdom...they HAVE asked to be put to work...they HAVE asked for sunday school classes...

I get sooo tired of martyr attitudes..."Poor me...no one else will do this- guess I'll have to...*sigh*" This is why I didn't want to get involved in this topic...sore spot with sooo many...

Carry on...I'll observe from afar...*smile*

well there you have it. One more example in a very long list of a Pentecost I have never come in contact with.

I promise, some of you people tell a story of Pentecost that might as well me from another planet than the Pentecost I have known all of my 37 years.

[RevDWW]

Stand up and step up.

Stand up when the call goes out for volunteers.

Step up when no one else wants the job.

It won't be long before your plate will be full.

Been there, done that, wore out the tee shirts.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Ferd

well there you have it. One more example in a very long list of a Pentecost I have never come in contact with.

I promise, some of you people tell a story of Pentecost that might as well me from another planet than the Pentecost I have known all of my 37 years.

That's because you're in that "group"...............

[whollyHis]

Originally Posted by Ferd

well there you have it. One more example in a very long list of a Pentecost I have never come in contact with.

I promise, some of you people tell a story of Pentecost that might as well me from another planet than the Pentecost I have known all of my 37 years.

Brother...you are truly blessed. I mean that sincerely. I read pastor's posts on here, and I have to wonder if it's all just a 'front'. So much is far removed from what I have experienced...my heart yearns for some of what I have read...thank God everyday for the wonderful example that you have been privileged to experience...*smile*

[Barb]

[QUOTE=whollyHis;3389]

But, the way church government is set up today, you cannot do anything unless you are allowed to. Availability is just the FIRST requirement- there are many hoops to jump through after that...*smile*

In some cases this is true. God bless the leader who has learned the secret of leading and delegating.

[whollyHis]

[QUOTE=Barb;3410]

Originally Posted by whollyHis

In some cases this is true. God bless the leader who has learned the secret of leading and delegating.

RIGHT!!!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

That's because you're in that "group"...............

you know, I am actually thinking of one person in my church who has complained that they dont get to do anything because of "that click"

but when push comes to shove, and special attention is made to get them involved, they beg off. not this weekend, not that job.

but then there are these new converts that come in, get the HG and get involved in everything while our one complainer who "isnt allowed" sits.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by whollyHis

Brother...you are truly blessed. I mean that sincerely. I read pastor's posts on here, and I have to wonder if it's all just a 'front'. So much is far removed from what I have experienced...my heart yearns for some of what I have read...thank God everyday for the wonderful example that you have been privileged to experience...*smile*

I am sorry for you. I have to go "jump" with my 2 year old. Please do me one favor and go back and fix your quotes.