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Old 11-21-2008, 12:05 PM
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Re: Could Barak Obama be the Anti Christ?

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Why do you say that?
I was going to ask the same question.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:07 PM
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I was going to ask the same question.
And we all wait with breath that smells like bait....

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Old 11-21-2008, 01:18 PM
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if the AC were a US president he would definetly be a Republican
Wow. You've got me convinced.
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This was interpreted by people with like predispositions to your own.

There is no capitalizing of the term antichrist and the addition of the worth THE before antichrist is likely self serving to that predisposition.

This scripture, in no way, was written to foretell the coming of some antichrist person in their far distant future and to state such would be frivolous indeed.
Most modern english translations translate the verse containing "the Antichrist". Most modern englsh translations use the oldest manuscripts to translate, older ones than King James had to work with, not "predispositions".
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Most modern english translations translate the verse containing "the Antichrist". Most modern englsh translations use the oldest manuscripts to translate, older ones than King James had to work with, not "predispositions".
Most modern translators are working under the influence of over 150 years of dispensationalism being taught in most of our churches
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:50 PM
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Re: Could Barak Obama be the Anti Christ?

oh boy.

I sense another eschatology debate lurking in the shadows...
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I don't believe the "AC" has ever been or ever will be any specific "he" or "she".

According to the Word of God... antichrist is a spirit... one that prevailed during the time of the apostles.
That is an interesting thought.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:59 PM
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I don't believe the "AC" has ever been or ever will be any specific "he" or "she".

According to the Word of God... antichrist is a spirit... one that prevailed during the time of the apostles.
D4T, a few quick questions for you, if you don't mind...

Do you believe there is a "man of sin" to come, as Paul spoke of in 2 Thessalonians 2?

Do you believe there is ruler to come who will be the "king of the North", as Daniel wrote of in Daniel 12?

Do you believe "the Beast" of Revelation 13 represents an actual man who will come, and that the "False Prophet" of that same chapter is also a literal man to come who will be second-in-command to the man who would be "the Beast" ?
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Could Barak Obama be the Anti Christ?

TRF it all happened in 70 AD. We are now living in the "new earth"! Isn't that exciting. The new earth is here and its full of murder, corruption, child abuse and homosexuality. Isn't Christ's Kingdom wonderful????????
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The Antichrist is both a spirit and personified in an individual.


1Jo 2:18 (New Living Translation) Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the end of the world has come.
Almost correct.

THE antichirst is a spirit. It is not personified in one man, but MANY.

THE antichirst in that verse is THE SPIRIT. That is the only THE antichrist in the bible, and 1 John.

When we read in chapter 4 and come to verse 3, we are given the identity of THE antichrist they HEARD WOULD COME. And it is not a man but a SPIRIT.

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1 John 2:18 KJV Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 4:3 KJV And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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