Is Pentecost Good to Women in Ministry?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by CupCake

Sister Alvear is not here in the States, I think that makes a big difference, Brazil is a world of it own if you ever been there, people have a different outlook on women in roles of of power. Sister Alvear has made mention before, she does not let man stop here, even tho she knows she been looked down on for her directness. Likewise that’s just one of many reasons why we left, we could do more for God outside of the origination, so not everyone sitting around crying, some are doing something about it, leaving the fold if need be.

I have not heard anyone criticize Sister Alvear.

But look at Nona Freeman and Vesta mangun and Bobbye Wendell.

They are in the states, and are well thought of.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

How many women are officials in the OP fellowships?

Licensing, ordaining and preaching is one thing, being an OFFICIAL is a total different ballgame.

Unless I am mistaken there was a grass roots movement a few years back to remove the words HE, HIM, BROTHER, etc. from the qualifications for sectional, district and national positions.

Didn't get pass committee.

You and I probably will not live long enough to ever see a WOMAN presbyter or superintendent.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Women who took a ministry role as we would define it are very rare in Scripture.

I believe they are the exception more than the rule.

This is why they are rare today. Not non-existent, but uncommon.

Whether you are a man or a woman, if you have got the goods, your gift is going to make room for you.

That's why you see ladies like our own Sister Alvear who doesn't need anybody defending her ministry--it speaks for itself.

If you are sitting back crying about how powerful you would be if only you got the breaks others got, you probably don't have what it takes. That goes for men and women.

Good post CS! I agree. A person's gifts make room for themselves regardless of their gender. I have sat under a woman pastor, and I have been blessed by various women preachers.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I have not heard anyone criticize Sister Alvear.

But look at Nona Freeman and Vesta mangun and Bobbye Wendell.

They are in the states, and are well thought of.

I'm not sure who criticize Sister Alvear, I read it in one of her post up here. I know Nona Freeman and spent time with Bobbye Wendell back in the 80's both are strong woman, if you talk with them you'll find out they didn't get much help or support, they paid their own way, they had a calling and went for it.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by CupCake

I'm not sure who criticize Sister Alvear, I read it in one of her post up here. I know Nona Freeman and spent time with Bobbye Wendell back in the 80's both are strong woman, if you talk with them you'll find out they didn't get much help or support, they paid their own way, they had a calling and went for it.

Exactly.

But they had the stuff and made it.

You don't hear them crying about not getting the breaks because they are women.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Exactly.

But they had the stuff and made it.

You don't hear them crying about not getting the breaks because they are women.



You won't hear most woman crying, woman will find a way around the walls man has step before them and God will open the doors. I must be honest, there are men within the UPC who won't except woman in any roll other then pew warmer or bake sale, I once sat under a pastor like this for three years while my husband pastor along side this man, I didn’t complain, his church, his way. When the time came God made a way we move on and we did.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Cupcake does your church have a website, if so could you pm me?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Licensing, ordaining and preaching is one thing, being an OFFICIAL is a total different ballgame.

Unless I am mistaken there was a grass roots movement a few years back to remove the words HE, HIM, BROTHER, etc. from the qualifications for sectional, district and national positions.

Didn't get pass committee.

You and I probably will not live long enough to ever see a WOMAN presbyter or superintendent.

You might outlive me.

[Hoovie]

Cupcake, are you currently in a pulpit ministry?

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Cupcake does your church have a website, if so could you pm me?

We sure don't, sorry.