Of Cherubims, Altars and Empty Tombs

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

or the listener

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You would most likely not know a good message if you heard one anyway, you act like a couple of young kids throwing out cutting comments like you think you know it all. Grow up just remember what goes around comes around. What you sow you will reap.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

You would most likely not know a good message if you heard one anyway, you act like a couple of young kids throwing out cutting comments like you think you know it all. Grow up just remember what goes around comes around. What you sow you will reap.

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have responded, but it just hit me as funny. Nothing against you Godsdrummer! Now I feel bad for laughing!

I do feel I must agree with Prax on this though. I've heard some excellent sermons and life changing at that.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I hear messages like that all the time. It's not the organization, it's the church and pastor

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Oop sorry if I hurt your feelings about UPCI I stayed in it just like every one else stays for that matter the same reason JW and Latter day Saints stay in their false doctrines. I was blinded by my upbringing and traditions and thought if I did not live this way and beleive this way I would split the pit. Trust me I have heard good messages in UPCI most alway the speaker had to plug in holiness, or some other doctrine the preacher thought needed added at the time. Probably one of the best messages I can recal was Hugh Rose preached the Lions Gail back in the 70's at a youth convention. man I can't beleive I still remember that message. Well I guess I better stop its not that I ahave that much against UPCI if that is what you chose to beleive. it is just that is all I ever knew before my wife and children left. So sorry that I compare things to UPCI I will try not to do too much more of it.

Have you ever watched someone recount an injustice they experienced or a run in they've had in the past and seen the anger rekindled and grow as they remembered and retold the incident? Some times that happens when we remember and recount some of our experiences with former UPC (or other churches) ministers, officials, or members. And some times that anger manifests itself in the way we word our posts.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Newman

I got goose bumps reading this! Wow.

Bro. RRFord has written some real good stuff on here over the years --and he's rebuked me for some of the stuff I've said that he didn't agree with.

He hasn't posted anything on here since November of last year.

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have responded, but it just hit me as funny. Nothing against you Godsdrummer! Now I feel bad for laughing!

I do feel I must agree with Prax on this though. I've heard some excellent sermons and life changing at that.

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BTW- I like the original post/study.
I like you too GD.

[King Sami]

From Hebrew cherubim , cherub + "-"; the Hebrew is plural, but the translators chose to add -s when borrowing the word into the English form, probably because the readers of the Authorized Version would not be familiar with Hebrew or Latin plurals.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sam

Have you ever watched someone recount an injustice they experienced or a run in they've had in the past and seen the anger rekindled and grow as they remembered and retold the incident? Some times that happens when we remember and recount some of our experiences with former UPC (or other churches) ministers, officials, or members. And some times that anger manifests itself in the way we word our posts.

Too true Sam,
See the thing is, of the primary three churches that I attended growing up the one we were truely from and called home, came a number of ministers and missionaries and evangelist to use terms used in pentecost. Out in the Pacific Northwest UPC churches did not get much over 100. and when they did the pastor was accused of dropping their standards.
We were also one of the biggest givers per capita accross the USA. The point of all this is that up until last year I would visit on occasion for my Mom still is staunch UPCI and thinks I am lost. LOL
And I had many very close friends in UPCI ministry as I carried UPC license for 10 years started a church etc (old history).
What gets me is the close mindedness in UPCI ranks at least in my part of the country. And trust my I have heard some of the best preachers UPC has to offer as our pastor held a position on the foreign missions board at headquarters. See I have been out for 10 years and still speak like I am part of it. And we had them visit often.
I hope this explains where I come from and why sometimes I say things the way I do towards UPCI.
You see at least in my part of the country if pastors preached more on the things of God than, tithing, the godhead, baptism in Jesus name, church attendance, and standards of holiness I would probably not have the opinion I have.
Although I would still have left.

[mfblume]

I would like to see rrford develop that thought he presented here about the holiest of holies and Christ's tomb even more!