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Old 09-02-2008, 01:22 PM
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PO, I can only imagine facing that situation and having the courage to do what you know is difficult...but right. Doing what is right always pays off at the end. I'm sure that your experience will bring life to many people.

I don't get to personal on forums, but I will say that this particular issue is very passionate for me too. My wife and I lost our only child, and I would do anything to reverse that. It is that experience that I believe makes it difficult for me to look at millions of babies as a number that can be tolerated or trivialized while we spend decades working out the kinks.
It is hard to get personal with it. I wasn't going to say anything, but I didn't want you to think I didn't have something invested on the issue.

When my daughter would cry about it and blame me, I once became so angry and through tears I said, "Have you ever thought about what I went through? How I was alone and no one cared. I delivered you in a hospital - alone. My own sister wouldn't meet me for lunch because she didn't want to be seen with me?"

I have a friend that had 4 abortions before God saved her. She told me that she was walking to the abortion clinic and across the street the "Christians" were holding anti-abortion signs! She told me that spit at them.

I would never, ever hold an anti-abortion sign in the face of a woman going through that trauma. I don't care how many friends she has, she is alone.

When my sister wouldn't meet me, I got in my car touched my stomach and said, "Don't worry, I'll love you."

I'm sorry for you and your wife's loss. I have another friend that has gone through the same. I hope, someday, they will have a child together.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:23 PM
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ts,

you have identified yourself as having "conservative convictions." I too am a conservative.

I assume that the pic in your profile is of you, an African American. Question, why is the African American community so "offed" as a whole by conservative thinking? Why, as a whole, do they not accept the successes of such greats as Condi, Clarence Thomas, and other AA's who have risen to the top, but instead listen to Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson who keep them depressed?

To me, a white man, would think that it is apparent that the opportunities of the conservative mindset provide FAR more opportunity then that which is presented my the liberal persuasion.

I would be interested in knowing your take on the issue.

Yeah, that's me. If I was going to fake the pic I would have used someone much better looking.
My take on the issue in the Black community is similar to my take on this thread. Blind partisanship is never a good thing. There are people who feel an instinctive desire to support who they have traditionally supported and in that case, the actual payoff is usually minimal. Politicians will not deliver what they do not actually have to. I personally am a big fan of how some unions handle their voting blocks (which are usually nowhere near the amount of either Blacks or the religious right). They actually make the candidates work for their votes, promise some specific things, then have to answer for those things. Politicians cannot take their support for granted.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:25 PM
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Yeah, that's me. If I was going to fake the pic I would have used someone much better looking.
My take on the issue in the Black community is similar to my take on this thread. Blind partisanship is never a good thing. There are people who feel an instinctive desire to support who they have traditionally supported and in that case, the actual payoff is usually minimal. Politicians will not deliver what they do not actually have to. I personally am a big fan of how some unions handle their voting blocks (which are usually nowhere near the amount of either Blacks or the religious right). They actually make the candidates work for their votes, romise some specific things, then have to answer for those things. Politicians cannot take their support for granted.
You have no problems in that area, tstew. lol
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:26 PM
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You have no problems in that area, tstew. lol
Well, that makes you and my mother who thinks so...I am well on my way.
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Well, that makes you and my mother who thinks so...I am well on my way.
Just think how much better you would look with a McCain/Palin hat on that noggin of yours.
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Well, that makes you and my mother who thinks so...I am well on my way.
Okay, something isn't right here. What about your wife?
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:29 PM
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Just think how much better you would look with a McCain/Palin hat on that noggin of yours.
Would the bill on that cap cover my eyes?
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Re: What Republicans Have done to stop Abortion

interesting and honest analysis tstew, good for you, i know it is slow, but the republicans are trying that beats supporting abortion hands down for me, dt
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Okay, something isn't right here. What about your wife?
ehhh... not so much...j/k
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your wife is a smart girl, lol
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