OOO MY! Mark Hanby News Flash!!!

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Hahaha, excellent point, Sis. Alvear.

Mark, it's very hard for me to take you seriously when these are just about the only threads you start.
And, it's even harder for me to take you seriously when you fret and fume about others "attacking" UPC ministers like LS, when you seem to want to dish out the dirt on everyone else.

Oh, but I forgot, they are "not in the ark", so they're fair game.

Give it a rest.............

That's a bold face lie mike and you owe me an apology IMO.
One only has to look at the ist of threads I've started to know
this is NOT TRUE.
Here is just some of the threads I've started - Is there something
wrong with them?

-Look at our forecast
-anyone know daryll hooper
-90 min. in Heaven
-Tonight Cogic convention webcast
-pastors personal grooming and attire
-FLDS selling dresses online
- who's on your bad list
-Do you believe in corporal punishment
-Invitation this Sunday
-Help! song suggestion
-church baptizing in the name of Eplely
- Where's Atlanta Bishop?
-It's too quiet
- Lagirl gives birth
-church closed for summer
-Glen Beck says start stock piling food
- your opinoin about walmart

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by StMark

That's a bold face lie mike and you owe me an apology IMO.
One only has to look at the ist of threads I've started to know
this is NOT TRUE.
Here is just some of the threads I've started - Is there something
wrong with them?

-Look at our forecast
-anyone know daryll hooper
-90 min. in Heaven
-Tonight Cogic convention webcast
-pastors personal grooming and attire
-FLDS selling dresses online
- who's on your bad list
-Do you believe in corporal punishment
-Invitation this Sunday
-Help! song suggestion
-church baptizing in the name of Eplely
- Where's Atlanta Bishop?
-It's too quiet
- Lagirl gives birth
-church closed for summer
-Glen Beck says start stock piling food
- your opinoin about walmart

Well, Bro.... sometimes, as they say "perception is reality" . Obviously for some reason, in some minds, you've become known for "those types of threads" more than the more positive, non-gossipy stuff. If that bothers you, you may want to at least keep it in mind going forward.

Its a lot easier to develop a negative reputation & image than a positive one.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Lord have mercy Mark. Sit down and hush, you are like one of those Hollywood gossip columnist sometimes. How would you like it if all your business was fodder on AFF?

Aww, leave Mark alone.
He's the gossip columnist for AFF.
He's just doing his job.
And he gives us stuff to gossip about,
and we can all judge the people he talks about,
and we can all look down on them and say, "Thank God I'm not like so and so,"
and we can all feel smug and self righteous about how good we really are (like the elder brother of the prodigal son).

[StMark]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, Bro.... sometimes, as they say "perception is reality" . Obviously for some reason, in some minds, you've become known for "those types of threads" more than the more positive, non-gossipy stuff. If that bothers you, you may want to at least keep it in mind going forward.

Its a lot easier to develop a negative reputation & image than a positive one.

But it's not right. I just proved it and it's goes to show
what They WANT to perceive. There's a bias going on
here. If Sherri, Pianoman or anyone else made this announcement
,Cindy,Mike and others wouldn't think anything about it, there would
be no name calling,etc. BUT if its me then I am immediately
called on it.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Not knowing his situations but what if there was a case where ones wife commited adultery in two marriages? Is the "except it be for fornication" clause only good once?

exactly what is the difference between:

Adultery is the voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and another person who is not his or her spouse.

and

Fornication is a term which refers to voluntary sexual intercourse between persons not married to each other.

I would think that in the case of a divorced man and woman fornication could not apply if they marry because they both would KNOW about the other. In the cae of audltery there does not seem to be an OUT. You learn to live with that spouse or you divorce and NEVER remarry.

Does one apply to only married couples and the other to singles?

If so then fornication could only be decided and committed before marriage and only at the time the husband or wife finds out that their new spouse was not a virgin when they married them could that apply.

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by CC1

All cases. It is a matter of principle. You can quote me that anybody is stupid who marries somebody when they are going to be wife or husband number three or more. They deserve whatever being that stupid brings them.

I could never figure out why someone would want to be married any more than once, (unless they had been widowed young or divorced young)
If I'm ever loosed, I'm not going to seek to be bound.

I hope three times is the charm.

[Jermyn Davidson]

I hope his third marriage works out for the best for God's name sake and their own happiness.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

exactly what is the difference between:

Adultery is the voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and another person who is not his or her spouse.

and

Fornication is a term which refers to voluntary sexual intercourse between persons not married to each other.

I would think that in the case of a divorced man and woman fornication could not apply if they marry because they both would KNOW about the other. In the cae of audltery there does not seem to be an OUT. You learn to live with that spouse or you divorce and NEVER remarry.

Does one apply to only married couples and the other to singles?

If so then fornication could only be decided and committed before marriage and only at the time the husband or wife finds out that their new spouse was not a virgin when they married them could that apply.

Jax, I think the definition of fornication such as you've displayed above is a root cause of a lot of erroneous teaching on the topic.

The Greek word for "fornication" is porneia, which refers to a broad range of sexual immoral behavior in general. In fact, many modern Bible versions, such as the NIV and others, translate the word porneia as "sexual immorality" today. In its original use in the New Testament, the word porneia does not have the limited meaning of "sex before marriage (or outside of marriage)" that we commonly ascribe to it today in our contemporary/Western setting. (Porneia could refer to homosexual or heterosexual sexual immorality... and to both marital and non-marital sexual immorality.)

Thus, although there is a distinct Greek word for adultery (moicheia), adultery would still fall under the meaning of porneia. In short, all adultery (moicheia) is porneia, even though not all porneia (i.e sexual immorality) is necessarily adultery.

Regarding an earlier point you raised, there is no indication at all in scripture or in original Greek usage of these words, that the word porneia only applies to single people. To assert such would be to force a meaning into the text that's not naturally there. Some have used that logic/interpretation to say that when Jesus said a person may divorce for the cause of fornication , he was only refer to premarital sex that was discovered after the marriage, and wasnt referring to adultery committed after the marriage took place, since he didn't use the specific word for adultery in that text (Matt 5:32, and 19:9). But I believe the a fair minded reading of scripture shows this to be not the case. If the word porneia covers sexual immorality as a whole, then it seems obvious to me that it must, and does, naturally include adultery as well.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by 1399

I hope his third marriage works out for the best for God's name sake and their own happiness.

For the sake of his own reputation & image too, as well as the image of the Body of Christ.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by 1399

I hope his third marriage works out for the best for God's name sake and their own happiness.

For the sake of God's name sake, he should remain single! JMHO!!!!