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Old 07-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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Richard Heard left the UPC and has gone Charismatic
Probably in the early 90s ? maybe mid 90s I don't remember.

He preached a long (several months) revival in stockton,CA
you may want to call their media Dept and see if they still
have the tapes from that revival
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:31 PM
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Richard Heard left the UPC and has gone Charismatic
Probably in the early 90s ? maybe mid 90s I don't remember.

He preached a long (several months) revival in stockton,CA
you may want to call their media Dept and see if they still
have the tapes from that revival
What exactly does that mean ?
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What exactly does that mean ?
it means he decided all the stuff he had preached for years would prevent him from having a big church so he stopped preaching anything related to sactification and holiness and consequently standards. he stopped preaching that it was essential to obey the gospel in the same why he did before he went charismatic. It means instead of preaching fear of the Lord and conviction, he has gone with Im ok your ok and now there is nothing to distinguish him and benny hinn except accent.

It means HE WENT CHARISMATIC.


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it means he decided all the stuff he had preached for years would prevent him from having a big church so he stopped preaching anything related to sactification and holiness and consequently standards. he stopped preaching that it was essential to obey the gospel in the same why he did before he went charismatic. It means instead of preaching fear of the Lord and conviction, he has gone with Im ok your ok and now there is nothing to distinguish him and benny hinn except accent.

It means HE WENT CHARISMATIC.


This time Mark is right.

Just this time ????
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Just this time ????
well, not JUST.... but at least this time!

hey Bro, I'm on your side here!


RH WENT CHARISMATIC! get over it folks its a fact!
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it means he decided all the stuff he had preached for years would prevent him from having a big church so he stopped preaching anything related to sactification and holiness and consequently standards. he stopped preaching that it was essential to obey the gospel in the same why he did before he went charismatic. It means instead of preaching fear of the Lord and conviction, he has gone with Im ok your ok and now there is nothing to distinguish him and benny hinn except accent.

It means HE WENT CHARISMATIC.


This time Mark is right.
I don't know anything about what he has done since leaving, remember hearing him preach when I was a kid. But I think throwing the term charismatic in a pejorative sense is a bit much. Some folks actually study Scripture and come to the conclusion that 20th century Pentecostal churches isn't the light in which they want to interpret Scripture. Why is it when they leave the UPC and the church dwindles it’s because they left the truth but when it grows they left so it would grow.
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I don't know anything about what he has done since leaving, remember hearing him preach when I was a kid. But I think throwing the term charismatic in a pejorative sense is a bit much. Some folks actually study Scripture and come to the conclusion that 20th century Pentecostal churches isn't the light in which they want to interpret Scripture. Why is it when they leave the UPC and the church dwindles it’s because they left the truth but when it grows they left so it would grow.
my brother we generally end up on the same side around here. on this one, I fall on the side of disdane.

Richard Heard, Jabo Green and some more I could name WENT CHARISMATIC.

And if you feel better by considering that a pejorative, then be my guest.

i am comfortable with it.
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my brother we generally end up on the same side around here. on this one, I fall on the side of disdane.

Richard Heard, Jabo Green and some more I could name WENT CHARISMATIC.

And if you feel better by considering that a pejorative, then be my guest.

i am comfortable with it.
Careful or you will fall off of that centrist fence you been riding your leaning hard Epley.
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Well,,, Is there anyone on this forum that we could
put in the catagory as "gone charismatic" ???
Remember my list Ferd ???
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Careful or you will fall off of that centrist fence you been riding your leaning hard Epley.
Centrists still believe in some stuff. the gentelmen in question have sorta trampled on them.


I am quite comfortable in the moderate saddle ive been riding all my life.
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