Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Rico

Of The Lord Thy God In Vain.


I have seen so many people apply this scripture to mean we shouldn't cuss. In another thread, StMark was given some negative feedback over using OMG, short for O My God. I used to think this scripture meant what the generally accepted application is, but my thinking on it changed a few years while sitting at a Mc Donald's restaurant, reading my Bible.

Anyway, I was sitting at this McDonald's eating whatever it was I had ordered and reading this scripture. As I read it I asked myself what "taking" meant. I realized that when I became a Christian I had taken on the name of Christ. My identity had been changed. This revelation completely changed my viewpoint on this scripture. Where once it had meant to not cut loose with cuss words usually associated with this scripture, it now meant not to waste the change in identity God had given me. I decided to look this scripture up and see what "take" means. I was surprised to find that "use" was not one of the definitions. What say ye?

Hebrew Strong's Number: 5375
Hebrew Word: ‏נָשָׂא‎
Transliteration: nāśāʾ
Phonetic Pronunciation:naw-saw'
Root: a primitive root
Cross Reference: TWOT - 1421
Part of Speech: v
Vine's Words: Prince, Remove (To), Depart


Usage Notes:

English Words used in KJV:
(bare / lift etc...) up 219
bear 115
take 58
bare 34
carry 30
(take / carry)..away 22
borne 22
armourbearer 18
forgive 16
accept 12
exalt 8
regard 5
obtained 4
respect 3
miscellaneous translations 74
[Total Count: 654]

or nacah, naw-saw'; (Psa. 4:6 [7]), a primitive root; to lift, in a great variety of applications, literal and figurative, absolutely and relatively (as follows) :- accept, advance, arise, (able to, [armour], suffer to) bear (-er, up), bring (forth), burn, carry (away), cast, contain, desire, ease, exact, exalt (self), extol, fetch, forgive, furnish, further, give, go on, help, high, hold up, honourable (+ man), lade, lay, lift (self) up, lofty, marry, magnify, × needs, obtain, pardon, raise (up), receive, regard, respect, set (up), spare, stir up, + swear, take (away, up), × utterly, wear, yield.

—Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary

Never fear Rico.

When sharing on AFF some wonderful thing that God has spoken to you...

you can always trust that several people will come along to tell you how wrong you are, how God would have never said that, and why you should know better than to assume you could ever hear from God on your own.

I come just to say "Ignore them".

You and God had a moment, enjoy it

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by rrford

This particular commmandment, like all of the others, is a rule based upon a principle. The rule is: "Thou shalt not take the name of the the Lord thy God in vain." The principle is: His name is primary to the expression of who He is and as such it is to be revered.

We should avoid all profain, vain, trivial and senseless uses of His names and titles, IMO. There is indeed a reason He gave us this principle in the OT. It is further enhanced in the NT when we study how He expects us to speak while possessing His Spirit. It is a no-brainer to me to avoid such language.

What about the word, Geesh? I've never addressed God as "Geesh".

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

OMG means Oh my goodness to me.

But not to the world in general. So if you mean it to be 'oh my goodness' then you have to spell it out, IMO.

[Praxeas]

there is a thayers dictionary of words then there is thayers lexicon. i have both. you need a magnifying glass to read the lexicon its a hard back. the dictionary is on the pc

[Praxeas]

did you see the license place fiasco where they allowed the three letters that ends with the F word?

Anyone can rationalize it means where's the fun, but that is not what it means no matter how much one spins it

[rrford]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What about the word, Geesh? I've never addressed God as "Geesh".

I realize that to the pure all things are pure. IMO, there is a certain amount of responsibility put upon uis when we come to an awareness of what a borader meaning of a word might be. For instance, it never ceases to amaze me how much slanguage form the world is used by born again folks who would blush if they knew how the world actually defined some of those terms.

Of course, over time, some words meanings become very different than what they were intended to be. Even with those I try to be careful so as not to speak in any way that might hinder my testimony.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rrford

I realize that to the pure all things are pure. IMO, there is a certain amount of responsibility put upon uis when we come to an awareness of what a borader meaning of a word might be. For instance, it never ceases to amaze me how much slanguage form the world is used by born again folks who would blush if they knew how the world actually defined some of those terms.

Of course, over time, some words meanings become very different than what they were intended to be. Even with those I try to be careful so as not to speak in any way that might hinder my testimony.

u r right. and i am not judging anyone. i have to be careful. i still say words i dont want to say sometimes. it's habit, but i am not justifying anything i do

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by rrford

I realize that to the pure all things are pure. IMO, there is a certain amount of responsibility put upon uis when we come to an awareness of what a borader meaning of a word might be. For instance, it never ceases to amaze me how much slanguage form the world is used by born again folks who would blush if they knew how the world actually defined some of those terms.

Of course, over time, some words meanings become very different than what they were intended to be. Even with those I try to be careful so as not to speak in any way that might hinder my testimony.

I'm glad you stop by now and then. I wish you'd post more often. Your thoughts and wisdom are appreciated.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by rrford

This particular commmandment, like all of the others, is a rule based upon a principle. The rule is: "Thou shalt not take the name of the the Lord thy God in vain." The principle is: His name is primary to the expression of who He is and as such it is to be revered.

We should avoid all profain, vain, trivial and senseless uses of His names and titles, IMO. There is indeed a reason He gave us this principle in the OT. It is further enhanced in the NT when we study how He expects us to speak while possessing His Spirit. It is a no-brainer to me to avoid such language.

Do any other posters here find fault in the spirit of these counsels? I do not.


For me, this is not a discussion that is some kind of vain attempt at 'adding gotchas' to the book-of-rules. It's a call to revisit why we do the things we do.

In the end,
its your heart
its your abundance
and its your speaking


....and its your master.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Do any other posters here find fault in the spirit of these counsels? I do not.


For me, this is not a discussion that is some kind of vain attempt at 'adding gotchas' to the book-of-rules. It's a call to revisit why we do the things we do.

In the end,
its your heart
its your abundance
and its your speaking


....and its your master.

I would completely agree with RRFord's assessment, very well said, and an extremely solid concept, in my opinion.