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Old 06-21-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: Barack vows to disarm America

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Well, this is what the Liberals want - even folk from AFF

there's even a "charismatic" delegation supporting him now!
not so. I am probably one of the most liberal folks here on AFF and I am terrified of the idea of Barak Obama being elected as our next president. Lord, spare us!

If ever there was a time for Americans to be on their knees interceding for our country, it is right now!
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not so. I am probably one of the most liberal folks here on AFF and I am terrified of the idea of Barak Obama being elected as our next president. Lord, spare us!

If ever there was a time for Americans to be on their knees interceding for our country, it is right now!
I agree Sister Margie.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:46 PM
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Re: Barack vows to disarm America

Fact is the congress runs the country,the presdent can't do anything except go to war with out congress ok.No worry,he is going to change nothing except congress approves it.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:02 PM
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I don't think you can believe anything the man (obama) has said now or while he was running against HRC. he is reaching for the ultimate welfare card get it and he will never have to work or write another book and will never have to worry about telling the truth again.
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I don't think you can believe anything the man (obama) has said now or while he was running against HRC. he is reaching for the ultimate welfare card get it and he will never have to work or write another book and will never have to worry about telling the truth again.
Could you elaborate on that line? I'm not sure that I have ever heard the Presidency of the United States referred to as a welfare card.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:06 AM
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(while our nation slips farther and farther into financial ruin)
CB1,
Gallup polls are saying that 87% of Americans think the economy if getting worse. lol

The facts are:

With everything thrown at our economy - subprime housing collapse, subsequent credit crunch, skyrocketing oil prices and record fuel costs at the pump - it is still holding up much better than in other recessions.

During Jimmy Carter's Administration the unemployment was 7.5% and inflation was 14.4%.

The national jobless rate, today, is 5.5% and in some places between 4 and 5%. Inflation is at 4.2%.

Wall Street Economists are predicting 1 to 2% growth in the second quarter and 3% in the second half of the year.

Why? Because of the small businesses and flexible labor force, as well as, believing the current rebound and the heavy investments, made globally in recent years, will pay off.

57% to 41% are in favor of drilling.

We are not doing bad. The media wants the American people to think we are.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:11 AM
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Re: Barack vows to disarm America

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I don't think you can believe anything the man (obama) has said now or while he was running against HRC. he is reaching for the ultimate welfare card get it and he will never have to work or write another book and will never have to worry about telling the truth again.
The ultimate welfare card. Isn't that special? Never have to work again? What have you been smokin?
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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?
It isn't really like that in the "real" world of our nuclear arsenal.

We do have the ability to deploy thousands of nukes, however since the break up of the Soviet Union we have pulled more stuff out of the "ready to use" inventory than we have left in.

As an example, the nukes deployed around the area I grew up were upgraded in the 1980's to carry the MX style multiple warhead payload. These have all been down graded to carry just a single warhead on each missile. The extras have been disassembled for storage and testing purposes.

We no longer manufacture nuclear weapons from scratch. The exact processes are a closely guarded secret, but according to www.fas.org (a bunch of "peaceniks" but still an excellent source of info) it appears that the US is mainly into recycling plutonium these days.

Also, if we were to "ban" the manufacture of weapons grade fissile material wouldn't that mean military action by us to enforce such a ban? That would mean war with Iran and North Korea right off the bat for an Obama administration. Is he really up to that?
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Also, if we were to "ban" the manufacture of weapons grade fissile material wouldn't that mean military action by us to enforce such a ban? That would mean war with Iran and North Korea right off the bat for an Obama administration. Is he really up to that?
Not to worry.
Our country and our world are in BAD shape and Hussein Obama is the candidate of change. He will change all that. And as far as war, well, our new President will sit down and talk to these leaders face to face as equals and they will come to a peaceful settlement.
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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?

Rico - apparently people don't realize that the power that we have developed has gone a long way to keeping peace throughout the world. It is because of that power that many WOULD BE NEW HITLERS have not risen, in fear of the power of the US might......and thus keeping the peace....[/I]Obama wants to throw it away with the hopes that it will encourage other nations to follow suit. Hogwash! If they see a chink in our armor they will be on us like a hen on a junebug.

The guy is nuts, but has a huge following of people who are deceived and led astray by his fancy rhetoric.
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