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Old 03-21-2007, 10:34 AM
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There are always questions. Many of them lead to a dead end street and frustration. All the questions won't be answered until we're in glory.
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I'm curious, Dave.......did you ever receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost when you were in the Apostolic church? I don't see how anyone could doubt after a genuine experience like that.
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Just interested in your responses. At the gym this morning I listened to a program that asked kids at a Christian college this question. Very interesting responses.

Because if I didn't I'd have no reason to live.
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:40 AM
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I'm curious, Dave.......did you ever receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost when you were in the Apostolic church? I don't see how anyone could doubt after a genuine experience like that.
Dave doesn't doubt Sarah. He's just picking brains here to get others to think. Many people can't give a good answer to this question. And there are good answers to be given.

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There are always questions. Many of them lead to a dead end street and frustration. All the questions won't be answered until we're in glory.
I agree and I disagree...

I have many, many questions -- the thing is, though, that I believe in a God that is much bigger than I can comprehend. I merely keep asking knowing that if I don't have the answer now, and I may never know the answer, it's okay. Because God is big, his ways are above our way, his thoughts above ours -- and I have faith in God.

I can now question all I want and I don't have to expect answers because of the Mystery that is God. The problem is when people are so based on concrete answers and audible voices until they are frustrated when these things aren't as apparent as they like. The problem isn't the questions but how we approach the questions.
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The majority of responses that I've received have been simply experiential and thereby unverifiable. If proof for your God is only in the 'experience' why should I or anyone else believe in that kind of a God? I've had my own experiences and mine are better than yours. You base your life and eternity, if there is one, on a feeling that you interpret as 'truth'.....Scary. If we did that in other aspects of life we'd call that insane.
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So, you serve your God out of tradition. Many have done the same and have made the same claim. That doesn't make it true. Just remember, I'm a Buddhist from a long tradition also that has served me and my family well.
You asked "Why do YOU believe the Bible?" My beginning to believe the Bible was because my parents were believers. I am now 56 years old and have moved beyond what my parents believed, however the Bible is still the foundation of my faith. THE BOOK is tried and tested in my life to be trustworthy, my faith will not necessary convince another. That is God's responsibility not mine. My job is to live my faith.

To convince a Buddhist of the truth of the Bible there would have to be work of the Holy Spirit. The Father would have to be calling them to truth at that particular time, otherwise my words would be "pearls before swine" as it were.
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Growing up attending Buckeye Lake Ohio Campmeeting...Bro. Robert Trapani taught a series on the proofs that the Bible is real from archeological discoveries to experiential manifestations...it was awesome...never have forgotten.
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I agree and I disagree...

I have many, many questions -- the thing is though, that I believe in a God that is much bigger than I can comprehend. I merely keep asking knowing that if I don't have the answer now, and I may never know the answer, it's okay. Because God is big, his ways are above our way, his thoughts above ours.

I can now question all I want and I don't have to expect answers because of the Mystery that is God. The problem is when people are so based on concrete answers and audible voices until they are frustrated when these things are as apparent as they like. The problem isn't the questions but how we approach the questions.
God is bigger than we can comprehend. He's past finding out.

I enjoy "thinking" about and discussing scripture and ideas too, but ultimately there simply are not always answers to all the questions. And because there aren't answers to all the questions does not negate or destroy or otherwise negatively affect authentic faith.

We have a responsibility to search the Scripture. That's why the Bereans were commended.
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The majority of responses that I've received have been simply experiential and thereby unverifiable. If proof for your God is only in the 'experience' why should I or anyone else believe in that kind of a God? I've had my own experiences and mine are better than yours. You base your life and eternity, if there is one, on a feeling that you interpret as 'truth'.....Scary. If we did that in other aspects of life we'd call that insane.


How did I know this was coming? LOL. Great discussion topic Dave!
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