The UPC is inanimate. It's akin to praying for a rock.
Pray for the leaders of the UPC? Sure. They are people. However, the UPC is just an organization.
Unity? Have they ever had that in the UPC?
Right, the Upc is just that.
................ If the UPC un-raveled, Head quarters was dismantled etc.....
..................what would the people do ?
An organism enmassed to itself within a body is a tumor.
I am meaning no disrespect towards the UPC in the least. I was raised UPC.
But the day and time that we are living in we have got to lose the measurements and think as a whole body.
Even local churches get the "our church is awesome" thing going. Your church cannot be "awesome" without the neighboring churches becoming just regular churches in ones mind.
There is one body made up of many members and the times demand that we become blind to the lines we have drawn in the past.
Doing so can put within us a mindset that can be conducive to God doing such a thing that it cannot be said "awesome things are going on at our church" or "God is doing some amazing things in the UPC" but we will indeed, due to the enormity of the demonstration of His power be forced to say "God is truly doing a world wide work"
I do see a need for prayer of unity within the body. The body as a whole. If I enjoy such complete unity with one group of brethren and do not, with equal ferver, seek unity with all other brethren who walk in truth then the body has experienced seperation within itself.
So, to me, the wise & prudent prayer would be for unity within the body as a whole and not for any particular organization within that body.
An organism enmassed to itself within a body is a tumor.
I am meaning no disrespect towards the UPC in the least. I was raised UPC.
But the day and time that we are living in we have got to lose the measurements and think as a whole body.
Even local churches get the "our church is awesome" thing going. Your church cannot be "awesome" without the neighboring churches becoming just regular churches in ones mind.
There is one body made up of many members and the times demand that we become blind to the lines we have drawn in the past.
Doing so can put within us a mindset that can be conducive to God doing such a thing that it cannot be said "awesome things are going on at our church" or "God is doing some amazing things in the UPC" but we will indeed, due to the enormity of the demonstration of His power be forced to say "God is truly doing a world wide work"
I do see a need for prayer of unity within the body. The body as a whole. If I enjoy such complete unity with one group of brethren and do not, with equal ferver, seek unity with all other brethren who walk in truth then the body has experienced seperation within itself.
So, to me, the wise & prudent prayer would be for unity within the body as a whole and not for any particular organization within that body.
D4T,
I hope with your post coming in at #25 in this series it can be considered as "worth-the-read" and not viewed as inconsistent with the core question posed by Prax's thread.
Hey, I can hope can't I!
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Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath [James 1:19]
Well? Do you pray for the UPC? For unity? For those in leadership to to succumb to corruption etc etc? I hear a lot of anti-UPC rhetoric and it's said they have no animosity but if that is true do you pray for the UPC to become better or do you passively hope for it's demise?
Hi Prax,Have you noticed that in the Lords prayer as it's called,the Lord taught us to pray forgive Us,give US,deliever US and so on ? He didn't teach ME<ME<ME,But he taught US<US<US.US includes me.Just a point to consider.
If the UPC un-raveled, Head quarters was dismantled etc.....
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