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Old 08-05-2008, 09:43 AM
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When I was a teenager ,I always had a hat to wear when I went to P.R,wasnt a requirement at my home church but we always respected Bro Rolston and didn't want to offend him.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:16 AM
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When I was a teenager ,I always had a hat to wear when I went to P.R,wasnt a requirement at my home church but we always respected Bro Rolston and didn't want to offend him.
When you were a teenager, eh?

Back in the days when King George V1 was on the throne, and Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was setting the styles for ladies all across the realm.

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Old 08-05-2008, 10:21 AM
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MapleLimb,

You are one brave man! I think there is destiny in your future.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Nice catch. The Pentecostal Tam was loosely styled after the Scottish Tam O' Shanter.

The Pentecostal Tam was the unofficial second covering of yesteryear.

It was made of eight diagonally shaped pieces of material, joined at the centre with a fabric covered button, and banded on the outer edge with a rigid piece of cardboard and an inch wide elastic.

It was a small price to pay for your place in Heaven.
This is TIC, right? Cuz if not, that is a terrible thing to say. JESUS paid the price for our place in heaven. No piece of cloth stuck on someone's head is going to make a bit of difference.
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:49 PM
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2 Peter 1:10-11

10 So, dear brothers and sisters, work hard to prove that you really are among those God has called and chosen. Do these things, and you will never fall away. 11 Then God will give you a grand entrance into the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

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Nice catch. The Pentecostal Tam was loosely styled after the Scottish Tam O' Shanter.

The Pentecostal Tam was the unofficial second covering of yesteryear.

It was made of eight diagonally shaped pieces of material, joined at the centre with a fabric covered button, and banded on the outer edge with a rigid piece of cardboard and an inch wide elastic.

It was a small price to pay for your place in Heaven.
LOL. Although he wouldn't know good music if it slapped him on his toothless, hillbilly head, he is a Hall Of Fame poster for sure!!!! Post more ML!
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:30 PM
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Here's an interesting little tidbit
The message of the hat went from Plaster Rock to Pembroke, Ontario where a pastor named Ralph Reynolds was shown the way more perfectly.
As a result of this light, when the Reynolds' were missionaries to Jamaica the message of the second covering was proclaimed. All because of a layman from Plaster Rock.

Close but not quite TN,

RVR never was a proponent of the second covering. RVR believed that it should be left to the individual believer to decide on this issue. It was his son PVR that has made a career of proclaiming this great revelation. According to PVR it was while PVR was a missionary to Jamaica that a layperson in the Kingston Jamaica church challenged him to study this issue that God opened his eyes to this long hidden truth.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:00 PM
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Close but not quite TN,

RVR never was a proponent of the second covering. RVR believed that it should be left to the individual believer to decide on this issue. It was his son PVR that has made a career of proclaiming this great revelation. According to PVR it was while PVR was a missionary to Jamaica that a layperson in the Kingston Jamaica church challenged him to study this issue that God opened his eyes to this long hidden truth.
The late Bishop S. C. Johnson had a strong influence in Jamaica he died there and taught hat or hell.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:46 PM
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I was gonna mention Plaster Rock. Thats the only place I knew of that had preached the second covering. Basically, it is founded on 1 Corinthians Chapter 11. I had the McKillops explain it to me when I was up there. I am QUITE familiar with their church and Sept5SavedTeen can verify that. lol! I got the Holy Ghost up there, graduated up there, got quite a few aquaintances up there, etc. Actually Bro. Daniel McKillop just preached at our church out here for our youth conference.

As for their hat doctrine, it basically I believe is a misconception over 1 Corinthians 11. Here is their "core" verse.

(1 Corinthians 11:5-6 KJV) But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

So they believe the hat is the second covering because the hair is a womans glory and something to the effect that no glory can show in God's presence, because it takes away from God.......or something like that. Never mind verse 15. lol!

(1 Corinthians 11:15 KJV)But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Oh well, they mean well. Like I told them up there, I have no issue with it, until it becomes a heaven or hell issue. Because if I dont believe in the hat doctrine, will I go to hell even though it doesnt affect me since I am a guy? lol......A couple of the hotheads got a bit uptight. Alex was standing right next to me when I said that. haha!! He can fill you in on what happened next.....
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:20 PM
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Close but not quite TN,

RVR never was a proponent of the second covering. RVR believed that it should be left to the individual believer to decide on this issue. It was his son PVR that has made a career of proclaiming this great revelation. According to PVR it was while PVR was a missionary to Jamaica that a layperson in the Kingston Jamaica church challenged him to study this issue that God opened his eyes to this long hidden truth.
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I could be misinformed, however, that was the story told to me by the man's son in law.
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