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Old 03-14-2007, 01:16 AM
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And you base the above on what?
On the 29 pages of this thread.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:16 AM
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Scripture tells us to think the best of one another, that's where we should begin and then minister as the need dictates.

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Old 03-14-2007, 01:26 AM
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Through my ministry, I've worked side by side with many people including gay ministers.
Here we see that he's worked side by side with gay ministers.

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I'm a gay christian man and I've dealt with many pastors and evangelists who spewed their hatred upon gays and lesbians. After years of my involvement in the ministry,
Here we see another admission of being involved in ministry and being gay.

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I would not offer or even attempt to justify what I wrote in November of last year. I couldn't explain to you why I wrote what I did that day. In all honestly, it was something I forgot about. I had been abusing my medication and I was in a really bad place; that could never excuse what I wrote that night. I have not been in a gay relationship or have felt anything that would ever compare to the love of God. I did give in to that sin and was the most miserable man. I have lived a life of celibacy before my fall and afterward.
Here we see somewhat of a denial that what he wrote in the above statement made on AOL was even true, and blames it on medication. He also says he wasn't involved in a relationship, even though in November he admits to being gay.

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I am thankful that what I wrote last November was posted last night for I was able to see how ungodly I was to write such things.
Again, there is a vagueness as to exactly what he is saying is wrong with what he posted. What was ungodly about what he wrote? Was it the harshness against others, or the fact that he admits to being gay?

Sorry, J-Roc. I'm not swallowing what I'm being fed. Feel free to dine on the buffet yourself, however.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:13 AM
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I'm just curious, for those of you that came out against chosen, how do you feel now since this last post ??
I gave Chosen opportunity to clear up ambiguous writing. It took 27 pages to do so. I would welcome the opportunity to clarify my intent right from the start if the shoe had been on the other foot.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:18 AM
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Scripture tells us to think the best of one another, that's where we should begin and then minister as the need dictates.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:27 AM
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I gave Chosen opportunity to clear up ambiguous writing. It took 28? pages to do so. I would welcome the opportunity to clarify my intent right from the start if the shoe had been on the other foot.icecream

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everyone does not have the mind of a lawyer where every dot and tiddle is well thought out and all bases are covered from the beginning to end. I understand that you probably think more analytical but such but a person in this postion may be writing out of feeling. when you have a death sentence and you're dying you might think from a different angle.

also, one cannot control the speed of a thread. I'm sure you know all too well how a person may not be able to come back and respond right away, sometimes for a few days or so.

having said that, I certainly understand the concerns that have been raised by some of the posters here. red flags were rightfully raised on many fronts. anyone who cannot understand this is strictly viewing the issue through emotion.

I commend CC for balancing his post with rational reasoning coupled with mercy, warmth and compassion.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:45 AM
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1Cor13....charity..............thinketh no evil KJV

7Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening].AMP
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Old 03-14-2007, 09:46 AM
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everyone does not have the mind of a lawyer where every dot and tiddle is well thought out and all bases are covered from the beginning to end. I understand that you probably think more analytical but such but a person in this postion may be writing out of feeling. when you have a death sentence and you're dying you might think from a different angle.

also, one cannot control the speed of a thread. I'm sure you know all too well how a person may not be able to come back and respond right away, sometimes for a few days or so.

having said that, I certainly understand the concerns that have been raised by some of the posters here. red flags were rightfully raised on many fronts. anyone who cannot understand this is strictly viewing the issue through emotion.

I commend CC for balancing his post with rational reasoning coupled with mercy, warmth and compassion.
Thad- I am not suggesting anyone should write perfectly the first time they express an idea. I am saying that answering a question that was asked by many over several days beginning the first day would have cleared things up much sooner.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:00 AM
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If we begin with I Cor. chapter 13, then reference from there we get God's approach and attitude toward others.

Who did Jesus minister to? He said the well have no need of doctors, it is the sick that He has called us to minister.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:02 AM
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