Divorce and remarriage - Page 28

james34 · #**271** 03-14-2021, 01:14 PM

The marriage bed is undefiled , not the bed of fornicators. The bed of fornicators God will judge.
One flesh is a thing. One flesh was to be reserved for the covenant of marriage. This was the natural way things would happen if Gods will was followed.
What is being added , is that “one flesh” through the physical relationship creates a marriage. That is about an ugly of a doctrine as I have ever heard. About 2 minutes of gave to face conversation will do away with that.
Paul even though he wrote about fornicators, pointed out that his presence would be to deal with it in an open more strong way.

Tithesmeister · #**272** 03-14-2021, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by james34

Y’all won’t say it , but your belief is that fornication consummates marriage. If not , please clarify.

I won’t say it. Because it isn’t true.

Not sure where you came up with that idea.

Esaias · #**273** 03-15-2021, 02:53 PM

"Ive read on this forum and know a Pastor who is a very good friend of mine, actually even wrote a book in support of, if you were divorced and then remarried before Christ the spouse you are with is not your spouse. You need to leave and either be reconciled with the former or remain alone."

Regarding the bolded part - that would be a sin. It was expressly forbidden by God.

Nicodemus1968 · #**274** 03-15-2021, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

"Ive read on this forum and know a Pastor who is a very good friend of mine, actually even wrote a book in support of, if you were divorced and then remarried before Christ the spouse you are with is not your spouse. You need to leave and either be reconciled with the former or remain alone."

Regarding the bolded part - that would be a sin. It was expressly forbidden by God.

I absolutely agree with you.

Tithesmeister · #**275** 03-17-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

"Ive read on this forum and know a Pastor who is a very good friend of mine, actually even wrote a book in support of, if you were divorced and then remarried before Christ the spouse you are with is not your spouse. You need to leave and either be reconciled with the former or remain alone."

Regarding the bolded part - that would be a sin. It was expressly forbidden by God.

This is a very destructive doctrine. All false doctrine has consequences. Some false doctrine is more destructive than others IMHO.

Steven Avery · #**276** 03-18-2021, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

"Ive read on this forum and know a Pastor who is a very good friend of mine, actually even wrote a book in support of, if you were divorced and then remarried before Christ the spouse you are with is not your spouse. You need to leave and either be reconciled with the former or remain alone.”

Please share the book name.
Thanks!

Nicodemus1968 · #**277** 03-18-2021, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Please share the book name.
Thanks!

I’ll PM you.

james34 · #**278** 03-21-2021, 10:23 AM

How is it that some think only sins such as ( lying, stealing, murder, drinking,gluttony, etc) are applicable to the heathen , but then with adultery all of a sudden , since they didn’t know the law they get a pass.
Do they not get a pass from these other sins since they didn’t know the law? Is it not the law that brings knowledge off sin? Why then must people who have never known God in any way be held accountable for all sins except adultery?

Originalist · #**279** 03-21-2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by james34

How is it that some think only sins such as ( lying, stealing, murder, drinking,gluttony, etc) are applicable to the heathen , but then with adultery all of a sudden , since they didn’t know the law they get a pass.
Do they not get a pass from these other sins since they didn’t know the law? Is it not the law that brings knowledge off sin? Why then must people who have never known God in any way be held accountable for all sins except adultery?

Nobody is saying what you claim. We are simply saying God does not invalidate such marriages, does not consider them non-existent, and does not command separation. So stop lying.

Tithesmeister · #**280** 03-21-2021, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by james34

How is it that some think only sins such as ( lying, stealing, murder, drinking,gluttony, etc) are applicable to the heathen , but then with adultery all of a sudden , since they didn’t know the law they get a pass.
Do they not get a pass from these other sins since they didn’t know the law? Is it not the law that brings knowledge off sin? Why then must people who have never known God in any way be held accountable for all sins except adultery?

I’m not aware of the law saying that gluttony is a sin. Could you provide scripture for that?