Is The Serpent Seed Doctrine A "Damnable Heresy"?

Originally Posted by pelathais

If you need help understanding that women were chattle in ancient times, I'm afraid you need to go back to the most basic and simplistic aspects of the study of history.

Look, for example, at the way in which the OT patriarchs purchased their wives; and consider that Abraham and company were actually "enlightened" by the standards of their times.

Look at the way Jacob wanted to forgo revenge for the rape of his daughter just so that he could enjoy amiable relations with the family of the man who had raped her. Women were seen as property and "things" that a man might accumulate toward some end.

The Bible records Jesus addressing his natural mother in a fashion consistent with His time. The angels called Mary "woman" when they met her at the tomb. In Matthew 15:28 - while praising her faith, Jesus calls the Canaanite woman by the same word.

I think you err when you try and and transpose 20th century English idioms into the 1st century manner of speech. To address a lady as "woman" in the first century was not an insult.

Unless she was your beloved mother

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

not DIVINE seed,... untainted seed... seed with no generation curses upon it... seed that came directly from the creation of God.... straight from the source of life

Again, we wait in vain for Scripture to augment this view. What exactly is a "generation curse" in the context of the Messiah being a blood descendant of King David?

I could think of a few.. Adultery & Murder to start off with

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Unless she was your beloved mother

No, did the angels insult Mary at the tomb? Did Jesus insult the Canaanite woman in Matthew 15?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

I could think of a few.. Adultery & Murder to start off with

What are you talking about? Use the quote button. Intentional ambiguity breeds misunderstandings. Let's be plain.

[pelathais]

How was 2 Samuel 7:13-16 to be fulfilled? In fact, read David's prayer in response - "Thou knowest thy servant..."

Read:

Genesis 49:10; 2 Kings 19:34; 1 Chronicles 17:13-14; Psalm 45:6, Psalm 72:5, Psalm 72:17-19; Psalm 89:36-37; Isaiah 9:7; Daniel 2:44, Daniel 7:14; Luke 1:32-33.

The Messiah, the King was to be a blood descendant of Abraham (Genesis 22:18 - "thy seed" - Abraham's seed!) Isaac, Jacob, Judah, David, Solomon and even poor ol' Zerubbabel (Zechariah 4:6-16).

Originally Posted by pelathais

What are you talking about?

You asked what curses would be in the Davidic blood

[Nahum]

Yes, it is damnable.

[TRFrance]

Doc, I have to ask this in all seriousness...

Do you think you're like the proverbial guy who "loves the sound of his own voice"?

You don't have to answer if you don't want to. You can take it as a rhetorical question if you like.
But think about it. And think about why I would even ask you that question.

Blessings,
TRF

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Doc, I have to ask this in all seriousness...

Do you think you're like the proverbial guy who "loves the sound of his own voice"?

You don't have to answer if you don't want to. You can take it as a rhetorical question if you like.
But think about it. And think about why I would even ask you that question.

Blessings,
TRF

Maybe because you are pious and have a dry sense of humor?

Last time I checked you had quite a few post yourself...

Kettle & Black,, they go together