What is the GOSPEL?

[shazeep]

ah, just signed in, and spent an hour and a half, here, and hit "post" without copying first, so you know what happened . prolly it will improve, tomorrow, i guess.

any reason for this signing us out thing, that is so disruptive? steals so much time? and wouldn't be a problem, if this site worked like any other site, you sign back in, and get taken back to your completed work? what gives?

[shazeep]

1When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases,
2and he sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.
3He told them: “Take nothing for the journey—no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra shirt.
4Whatever house you enter, stay there until you leave that town.
5If people do not welcome you, leave their town and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.”
6So they set out and went from village to village, proclaiming the good news and healing people everywhere.
7Now Herod the tetrarch heard about all that was going on. And he was perplexed because some were saying that John had been raised from the dead,
8others that Elijah had appeared, and still others that one of the prophets of long ago had come back to life.
9But Herod said, “I beheaded John. Who, then, is this I hear such things about?” And he tried to see him.

anyway, there are other ways to approach this parable--which is what this is for you, a parable, right? a passage that you have not assimilated, because it requires action, it is an action parable--but i guess what i'm hearing is you should walk the walk first, even if it can be applied to other situations where you are walking out that door in the way of Abel. which of course don't matter if you are still Cain.

[KeptByTheWord]

The gospel in its simplicity:

1 Cor. 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by shazeep

anyway, there are other ways to approach this parable--which is what this is for you, a parable, right? a passage that you have not assimilated, because it requires action, it is an action parable--but i guess what i'm hearing is you should walk the walk first, even if it can be applied to other situations where you are walking out that door in the way of Abel. which of course don't matter if you are still Cain.

Translation: "I got me a DANK score on that KUSH, y'all, whoo-wee! Hit me up wit dat, g, cuz I'm fittin' a be ALL up in dis crib, knowumsayin? No ragrets, dog, no ragrets! Not even one letter, g money dog! I'm fly, cat, goss me some Eminem, goss me some Marley, hoosh, baby! Knowumsayin? Kick it, brahs."

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Translation: "I got me a DANK score on that KUSH, y'all, whoo-wee! Hit me up wit dat, g, cuz I'm fittin' a be ALL up in dis crib, knowumsayin? No ragrets, dog, no ragrets! Not even one letter, g money dog! I'm fly, cat, goss me some Eminem, goss me some Marley, hoosh, baby! Knowumsayin? Kick it, brahs."

One can understand the gist of what you've written. Can't say that about the other stream of consciousness above.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by shazeep

you guys are just having fun, and serving yourself, and you can't bring a Witness, and when you do i scare you away from it, you get all "offended," and you think you are clever, but you are proving that you are just what i am accusing you of, and i have a Witness for mine, that you are too scared to ask for, and you do not have any Witness, that i have been asking for all day. Are we all caught up now? Why don't you bring me a man, to argue for your side, and both of you go sit down, because neither of you know what you are talking about, and if you want, i'll be Goliath, now bring me your David, you lying apostate murdering fakers.

Shaz was kicking at the pricks, because he rejected the work of the cross.

Phil. 3:18-19
18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

He believes that anyone can be saved just by believing, and that the work of the cross is not necessary in their lives.

His mantra scripture was the Nehushtan found in II Kings 18:4

3 And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, according to all that David his father did.
4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

The serpent on the pole once was used to save and heal Israel, but when they turned it into an idol, and began burning incense to it, Hezekiah burnt the serpent on the pole, and called it Nehushtan.

Shaz reasoned that since the journey of a believer can be demonstrated in the walk of the children of Israel out of Egypt, this somehow means that the cross is no longer effective.

Where his reasoning erred, (and Bro. Blume and I endeavored to show him this), was that the people had made the serpent on a pole (or the symbol of the cross), into an idol, and began to worship it, and that idol worship was what God condemned, not the serpent on the pole, and not the cross.

We do not glory in the cross itself, but in the work that the cross wrought for us. The cross alone holds no power, but it is what happened at the cross that matters.

However, he could not be convinced otherwise, and this became quite obvious, as he chose to lash out, particularly at me with awful words, because his "concept" had been proven wrong, and he was furious, and would not accept it.

Just a concise explanation for anyone who may be wondering what took place in these threads.