Is The Serpent Seed Doctrine A "Damnable Heresy"?

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

TR

Do you like Stoneking's preaching? I am not attacking you or him. I think God uses him. I asked you this question because the statements you make remind me of how he acts when he preaches.

Yes,BK... I've been very blessed by his preaching.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Rico

HOGWASH!

Rico

I think he needs the Hog in the bucket cartoon again.

[bkstokes]

V

I have noticed something about the poll. The longer we talk about this subject. The more people think it is false doctrine.

[StMark]

Yes I think so and here's why. I haven't read this whole thread so forgive me if this was already brought up, but i spent a good deal of time around Branhamites. Instead of teaching repentance and baptism, their means of salvations was "just believe the prophet". I heard that from THEIR MOUTH!

They use to say there was nothing to worry about because we were already of "Righteous seed" > my question was, " how did they know" ? how does anyone know if you came from Able's seed? just by believing in " the prophet" ??? ( and of course the seed doctrine)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

You missed a great opportunity to see more truth there... the fact that he mentions his blood brothers are not his brothers.. should be telling you something.. he had no connection with this world by blood

WHO are you addressing now? Can you please use the quote button?

Second the text CALLs them his brother and mother. The GREATER truth YOU are missing I think is that he does not deny they are his blood brothers and sisters or whatever. In fact Jesus is an Israelite. He is a Jew. He came UNTO HIS OWN and HIS OWN received Him not. That would be impossible if he was not related to them somehow. He could not be KINSMAN redeemer if he was not related to them.

[Praxeas]

After reading Dr's assertions about Jesus and blood...I am wondering if there is a connection then between the Serpent Seed Doctrine and the Heavenly Flesh doctrine. If so then yes I have to reject it and them both as Heresies....and possibly damnable ones too.

If Jesus is NOT our kinsman redeemer then we have no salvation

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

After reading Dr's assertions about Jesus and blood...I am wondering if there is a connection then between the Serpent Seed Doctrine and the Heavenly Flesh doctrine. If so then yes I have to reject it and them both as Heresies....and possibly damnable ones too.

If Jesus is NOT our kinsman redeemer then we have no salvation

There is a connection, Prax ... mainly with this idea of the perfect divine blood cell that impregnated Mary.

Seems it was prevalent among Pentecostal preacher during the first half of the last century ...

Just by examining Branahm's quote - and even Elder Epley who believes a strain of the perfect blood cell Incarnation

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

There is a connection, Prax ... mainly with this idea of the perfect divine blood cell that impregnated Mary.

Seems it was prevalent among Pentecostal preacher during the first half of the last century ...

Just by examining Branahm's quote - and even Elder Epley who believes a strain of the perfect blood cell Incarnation

And the connection is...if I recall my past dealings with WB followers...is that the human race is of the serpent seed until we become changed by Jesus who is of the Divine seed?

If that is the case then yes I have a huge problem with this....that would make Jesus NOT our kinsman redeemer. He would be NOT like us contrary to what the word says

not DIVINE seed,... untainted seed... seed with no generation curses upon it... seed that came directly from the creation of God.... straight from the source of life

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Why dont you post some credible references to these facts

If you need help understanding that women were chattle in ancient times, I'm afraid you need to go back to the most basic and simplistic aspects of the study of history.

Look, for example, at the way in which the OT patriarchs purchased their wives; and consider that Abraham and company were actually "enlightened" by the standards of their times.

Look at the way Jacob wanted to forgo revenge for the rape of his daughter just so that he could enjoy amiable relations with the family of the man who had raped her. Women were seen as property and "things" that a man might accumulate toward some end.

The Bible records Jesus addressing his natural mother in a fashion consistent with His time. The angels called Mary "woman" when they met her at the tomb. In Matthew 15:28 - while praising her faith, Jesus calls the Canaanite woman by the same word.

I think you err when you try and and transpose 20th century English idioms into the 1st century manner of speech. To address a lady as "woman" in the first century was not an insult.